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		<title>By: ray odierno</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/06/24/where-do-we-go-from-here-chaos-or-community/#comment-1951</link>
		<dc:creator>ray odierno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soma</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/06/24/where-do-we-go-from-here-chaos-or-community/#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>soma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;soma for sale…&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;zalatnai soma…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>soma for sale…</strong></p>
<p>zalatnai soma…</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/06/24/where-do-we-go-from-here-chaos-or-community/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;crikey ! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;at Fallujah&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crikey ! </p>
<p>at Fallujah</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Welcome, Welcome to the Lake, Spencer !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can’t wait to read these posts. damn Jane &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remind everyone that Raymond Odierno was the CO when US Military used Willy Pete on civilians sleeping in their beds&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Welcome to the Lake, Spencer !</p>
<p>can’t wait to read these posts. damn Jane </p>
<p>I remind everyone that Raymond Odierno was the CO when US Military used Willy Pete on civilians sleeping in their beds</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morning Spencer — great to have you here!  Luv the tattoo…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning Spencer — great to have you here!  Luv the tattoo…</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Ackerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning Martha! And thanks! On Odierno, he’s not so much a protege, and Petraeus inherited him as corps commander. Their relationship is kind of complicated, but I tried to get into it in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/a-famous-enigma&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this piece&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Martha! And thanks! On Odierno, he’s not so much a protege, and Petraeus inherited him as corps commander. Their relationship is kind of complicated, but I tried to get into it in <a href="http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/a-famous-enigma" rel="nofollow">this piece</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks very much Spencer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This piece fills a very noticeable gap here with liberal talking points about the Middle East occupations in general. (Swopa imho is a notable exception.) Too often we fail to address military issues using the language of military preparedness. FDL can’t (nor should it) do everything and I give Jane very high marks for brand discipline. These are, however, the kinds of questions Steve Gilliard (RIP) was asking: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Based on current US deployments to Iraq, what are the troop to task ratios and the force protection requirements?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What about our supply lines from Kuwait? Are they defensible? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will our troop eventually have to fight their way out?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democrats simply ignored the fact that Bush ignored the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The questions posed by the Powell Doctrine, which should be answered affirmatively before military action, are:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?&lt;br /&gt;
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?&lt;br /&gt;
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?&lt;br /&gt;
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?&lt;br /&gt;
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?&lt;br /&gt;
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?&lt;br /&gt;
7. Is the action supported by the American people?&lt;br /&gt;
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you’re interested Sara over at tnh has done some terrific work on US military thinking about occupations. It’s a shame the Pentagon let Bush contradict what they teach at West Point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again for the post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much Spencer.</p>
<p>This piece fills a very noticeable gap here with liberal talking points about the Middle East occupations in general. (Swopa imho is a notable exception.) Too often we fail to address military issues using the language of military preparedness. FDL can’t (nor should it) do everything and I give Jane very high marks for brand discipline. These are, however, the kinds of questions Steve Gilliard (RIP) was asking: </p>
<blockquote><p>Based on current US deployments to Iraq, what are the troop to task ratios and the force protection requirements?</p>
<p>What about our supply lines from Kuwait? Are they defensible? </p>
<p>Will our troop eventually have to fight their way out?</p>
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<p>Democrats simply ignored the fact that Bush ignored the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force:</p>
<p>The questions posed by the Powell Doctrine, which should be answered affirmatively before military action, are:</p>
<p>1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?<br />
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?<br />
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?<br />
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?<br />
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?<br />
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?<br />
7. Is the action supported by the American people?<br />
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?</p>
<p>If you’re interested Sara over at tnh has done some terrific work on US military thinking about occupations. It’s a shame the Pentagon let Bush contradict what they teach at West Point.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn in MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nonconcur?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that willl be a clasic&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonconcur?</p>
<p>that willl be a clasic</p>
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		<title>By: martha</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/06/24/where-do-we-go-from-here-chaos-or-community/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning Spencer…welcome!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Kagans are evil people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is Odierno a Petreus protoge, if that’s the right word? Or just the next in line?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Spencer…welcome!</p>
<p>The Kagans are evil people.</p>
<p>Is Odierno a Petreus protoge, if that’s the right word? Or just the next in line?</p>
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