BlueTexan flags a certain bluff of John McCain's:
McCain and Lieberman advocated increasing troops in Iraq, while Obama has opposed the war from the start.
''I was right. He was wrong,'' McCain said. "We are winning in Iraq.''
Ever since last summer, the right has launched an effort -- see, for instance, this chin-checking column from David Brooks -- to divorce the surge from the war. I wrote in the Prospect last September that, politically, it was a massive success for Bush -- his only real political success, arguably, since Katrina. By speaking only about the surge instead of the broader war, the administration played its only real card to hit the public-opinion reset button on Iraq. I don't mean to overstate Bush's success: after all, the war remains massively unpopular. But it was a savvy strategy, and it helps explain why McCain thinks he actually has an argument here.
But by saying "I was right" on Iraq, McCain's really testing that proposition. What he's ignoring is that ever since 2008 began, we've continued to see lower troop fatalities -- unambigously a good thing. But the level of violence in Iraq has stopped its mid/late-2007 trajectory of decline. If you look at page 20 of the Pentagon's latest quarterly Iraq report (sorry, it's a PDF and I'm typing this on a Mac and WTF), you'll see that the Weekly Security Incident trends are pretty much flatlined from November to February, with a big spike during the Second Sadrist Uprising and a recent decline from April to May. In other words, before the surge brigades returned home, we reached what seems to be a saturation point for reduced Iraqi violence, whatever you want to say was the cause of such a reduction. What happens now that the surge is over?
The answer is: still more war. Bush made yet another push today to keep us in Iraq permanently. Gen. Odierno, if he has any strategy for Iraq at all, is saying he'll execute Petraeus's strategy -- just with about 30,000 fewer troops. That's either cynical or irresponsible -- or, at the very least, Odierno has to explain how it isn't. In any case, we're guaranteed that the war. Drags. On. And. On. More war in Iraq means more opportunity for al-Qaeda to use the war to its recruiting advantage; to divert U.S. resources from the Afghanistan-Pakistan border; more regional instability; and, of course, more blood and treasure.
The best that can happen for McCain, in other words, is for Iraq to be a slightly less costly strategic mistake. And if the Democratic nominee were, say, someone who voted for the war but opposed it later, on pragmatic grounds that the war was too costly, he'd have a real shot at making that argument compelling. But against someone who recognized that the war should never have been fought, he doesn't have a motherfucking prayer. All he does is expose how desperately ignorant he actually is about U.S. national security. If I was McCain, I'd also bluster about the "success" of the surge, because you can't ever win a war that was never in your interest in the first place -- all you can do is stanch the bleeding. But now that he's making a jump from a discrete statement about the surge to a broader judgment about the war, it's fucking death-spiral time. Is McCain actually on Obama's payroll?
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So odd to me how quickly this essential question was ignored by Conglomerate Media and thus, the “average” American:
What the hell did Iraq have to do with 9/11, especially considering Saddam and bin Laden were sworn enemies?!?!
It’s been years now that I’ve seen a “mainstream” media person talk about this. Years later, hundreds of thousands of lives lost and hundreds of billions of dollars later, Those Who Know Better in DeeCee are still saying, “Listen to us!” as bin Laden runs around somewhere with his dialysis machine (assuming the official story is true…).
The absurdity of it all never ceases to amaze me. Each one of us needs to get as many people as possible off the Conglomerate Media teat and reading places like FDL instead. It’s our only hope.
Here is a link to the document cited.
Here is the relvant paragraph:
Emphasis added.
Yeah. DOD was way out of sync with the GAO and couldn’t even make that claim categorically. Further, in Bushachusetts, it’s gotten harder to remember whether progress means we leave now or progress means we stay forever or failure means we stay forever or failure means we leave now. So can you blame the Pentagon for hedging?
Well what else do you want them to do ?
The administration didn’t make a case that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. It was justified on the basis that arseholes with WMDs could give them to terrorists and that was a threat you needed to go bomb some.
There’s pretty much nobody alive hasn’t got the word about how that WMD treasure hunt played out. So what are you really asking for here ? That the media play as dumb as you are and invent that meme which is popular with a certain demographic, but not realy true ?
Well okay, but seeing as it’s election season I think you’ll have to let them explore whether Obama is a moderate or radical muslim first.
Many polls over many years have shown that large percentages of Americans think Saddam and Iraq in general had something to do with 9/11. Was this by accident or by design? The WMD argument was added into the mix to confuse the issue even more.
I spent last week in an area of the country where this “certain demographic” is the majority…by far. When discussing politics with any of the locals, by asking the question I mentioned, their entire line of reasoning went down the drain. Several said, “Good point…” and one person, after a long discussion, admitted she’s questioning her support of McKeating now. If BigMedia would’ve reported and exposed the fallacies from the get-go, rather than cheerlead and regurgitate the carefully contstructed spin, I think there would’ve been enough public pressure to potentially stop, or at least end the Iraq madness. So that’s what I’m “really asking for here,” O’ wise one.
This percentage of the public is quite large and was responsible for Shrub getting re-selected in 2004.
Large percentages of Americans think all kinds of things. They’re either all newsworthy on this basis or they’re not. You know, I don’t see the media questioning the moon landing lately either.
Last week would make that occurring in June 2008.
The demographic mentioned was people who think Iraq had something to do with 9/11 or question why this topic isn’t still being addressed by the media in 2008.
I dunno what to tell you. Travel elsewhere.
Yes, but we still can’t figure out what you are asking for.
The media reported that al Qaeda was behind 9/11 from the get go in 2001. There was no “get go” when Iraq had something to do with 9/11 because the media never suggested they were. So WTF already ?
Now whatever it is you are talking about, the fact still remains that it is now June 2008. The only way you get to suggest the media is to blame for you not knowing whether Iraq being behind 9/11 was ever resolved, conclusively, is if you want to suggest Wolf Blitzer has kept you prisoner in his basement and away from all said media for 7 years.
Best of luck to you.