Comments on: White Pride, You’re An American http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/ Just another Firedoglake weblog Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:24:01 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jwb81 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-2682 jwb81 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:00:55 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/#comment-2682 <p>Spencer,</p> <p>You’re right to think this is an index of how the Republican party is faring; but you are wrong in not fearing the repercussions of this rhetoric. I’m with you–the veneer’s off, what lies below is plain ugly, and a lot of people won’t stand for it. The framing mechanisms set up by Rove & co are now exposed, unarguably, and the media won’t underplay it with their old confusion between objectivity and balance. But these hateful people will not go away. If the republicans won’t keep them in the tent (or, conversely, they won’t stay in the republican’s tent), my bet is we’ll see some major splintering between the center-right and far right. </p> <p>I hope Huckabee or another evangelical comes out and denounces this sort of hateful, win-at-all-costs mentality.</p> Spencer,

You’re right to think this is an index of how the Republican party is faring; but you are wrong in not fearing the repercussions of this rhetoric. I’m with you–the veneer’s off, what lies below is plain ugly, and a lot of people won’t stand for it. The framing mechanisms set up by Rove & co are now exposed, unarguably, and the media won’t underplay it with their old confusion between objectivity and balance. But these hateful people will not go away. If the republicans won’t keep them in the tent (or, conversely, they won’t stay in the republican’s tent), my bet is we’ll see some major splintering between the center-right and far right.

I hope Huckabee or another evangelical comes out and denounces this sort of hateful, win-at-all-costs mentality.

]]> By: DJAnyReason http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-2680 DJAnyReason Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:43:27 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/#comment-2680 <p>Nelson,</p> <p>Look to the person to your right. Now look to the person to your left. Now look to the person in front of you. On average, one of you four is a 25%er.</p> <p>How long can they keep raging? Well, considering there’s upwards of 75 mllion 25%ers in this country, quite a while.</p> <p>I also don’t think that declining political relevance is quite the point. One out of four is still plenty to start a lynch mob, hard hat riot, or Oklahoma City bombing.</p> Nelson,

Look to the person to your right. Now look to the person to your left. Now look to the person in front of you. On average, one of you four is a 25%er.

How long can they keep raging? Well, considering there’s upwards of 75 mllion 25%ers in this country, quite a while.

I also don’t think that declining political relevance is quite the point. One out of four is still plenty to start a lynch mob, hard hat riot, or Oklahoma City bombing.

]]> By: DaPug http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-2677 DaPug Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:21:42 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/#comment-2677 <p>I think it’s time for another Obama Girl video.</p> I think it’s time for another Obama Girl video.

]]> By: NelsonAlgren http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-2676 NelsonAlgren Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:18:15 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/#comment-2676 <p>DJAnyreason:<br /> You are missing the point. What happens when Obama is President and the good times start to come back by the end of the first term? Are they all gonna say Bush brought them back? Are the 25%’ers going to keep raging at the dying of the Nixonian light? For what? How long can the fundies and the dead-enders keep living in the past?</p> DJAnyreason:
You are missing the point. What happens when Obama is President and the good times start to come back by the end of the first term? Are they all gonna say Bush brought them back? Are the 25%’ers going to keep raging at the dying of the Nixonian light? For what? How long can the fundies and the dead-enders keep living in the past?

]]> By: DJAnyReason http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/comment-page-1/#comment-2675 DJAnyReason Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:46:57 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/10/white-pride-youre-an-american/#comment-2675 <p>Ok, Spencer - how, exactly, is winning an election going to destroy the underlying resentment and hate that is driving these rallies? Suppose Obama gets a complete landslide, is that supposed to stop the next hard hat riot? Is that supposed to make the lynch mob see the error of their ways?</p> <p>Nixonland is based on the principle that you can lead men by stoking their resentments. How does winning an election get rid of this resentment? How does it not simply feed it more?</p> <p>Nixon spoke to the great *SILENT* majority - those who used to call negros n—ers, and were pissed off that they couldn’t anymore. We’re going to shame them into submission? We might shame them back into silence, but that’s about it. And then the next Nixon will come along to fan the flames.</p> <p>There’s nothing to be happy about anything that’s going on at McCain rallies right now. Instead, its something to be afraid of, and something that shows despite the fact that we’re less than 30 days from voting to elect a black man the next president of the United States, how far we still have to go.</p> Ok, Spencer – how, exactly, is winning an election going to destroy the underlying resentment and hate that is driving these rallies? Suppose Obama gets a complete landslide, is that supposed to stop the next hard hat riot? Is that supposed to make the lynch mob see the error of their ways?

Nixonland is based on the principle that you can lead men by stoking their resentments. How does winning an election get rid of this resentment? How does it not simply feed it more?

Nixon spoke to the great *SILENT* majority – those who used to call negros n—ers, and were pissed off that they couldn’t anymore. We’re going to shame them into submission? We might shame them back into silence, but that’s about it. And then the next Nixon will come along to fan the flames.

There’s nothing to be happy about anything that’s going on at McCain rallies right now. Instead, its something to be afraid of, and something that shows despite the fact that we’re less than 30 days from voting to elect a black man the next president of the United States, how far we still have to go.

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