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		<title>By: Kilo</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Our non-major warfighting position being somewhat dictated by having less than 45000 army troops to field, all in.&lt;br /&gt;
We’ve got some historical ties to PNG/West Papua, but apart from that our military roles are really dictated by a perceived responsibility for regional stability, in a vacuum of other interested assistance forces. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;US could do far more in this role for obvious reasons, not least of which that you have far more specialist advisers available to field. That’s already been done though and I’d question whether there’s enough call for it to really make a difference from what’s done now. Beyond that, there could be a huge capability for an expansion of assistance missions to reap all kinds of benefits, particularly how the face of US forces is perceived today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ain’t like there’s any shortage of work…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bombharvest.com/synopsis.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bombharvest.com/synopsis.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our non-major warfighting position being somewhat dictated by having less than 45000 army troops to field, all in.<br />
We’ve got some historical ties to PNG/West Papua, but apart from that our military roles are really dictated by a perceived responsibility for regional stability, in a vacuum of other interested assistance forces. </p>
<p>US could do far more in this role for obvious reasons, not least of which that you have far more specialist advisers available to field. That’s already been done though and I’d question whether there’s enough call for it to really make a difference from what’s done now. Beyond that, there could be a huge capability for an expansion of assistance missions to reap all kinds of benefits, particularly how the face of US forces is perceived today.</p>
<p>Ain’t like there’s any shortage of work…<br /><a href="http://www.bombharvest.com/synopsis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bombharvest.com/synopsis.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: PacificCoastRon</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3465</link>
		<dc:creator>PacificCoastRon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also meant to say, in my third para. above, that we’ll know much more about how compromised Obama is by the military-industrial-media “stupidity” complex, and what that will mean for our progressive response, in about six months or so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also meant to say, in my third para. above, that we’ll know much more about how compromised Obama is by the military-industrial-media “stupidity” complex, and what that will mean for our progressive response, in about six months or so.</p>
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		<title>By: PacificCoastRon</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3464</link>
		<dc:creator>PacificCoastRon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let’s go even further.  We create our cultures, we create our political and economic institutions with every choice we make in these areas, and those involved in the military create those institutions with their every choice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somewhere between 1946 and 1951, the American military and intelligence institutions stumbled into an imperial culture, and they’ve been dragging the rest of us along into their nightmare ever since.  When I was child in the 1950’s and all our parents had been the 20-year-olds in the war, we could pretend it was fairly benign … yet with the counterattack of the plutocrats in the Carter Presidency and their triumph of Reaganism, and then morphing into the total corruption of the military- industrial- Congressional- media elites into an imperial class under Bush-Clinton-Bush II, it clearly has become cancerous to the planet.  The industrial-media corruption links in themselves, for example, have so far prevented any progress away from the oil/auto economy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what do we now create for future?  The question of the ages is, is Obama totally compromised by the military-media establishment (whose philosophy he had to embrace to navigate the media to get elected) and can we the people lead him and our still-retrograde Congress to newer and better choices that allow the creation of a world based on cooperation rather than conflict — as FDR fully intended, and might have worked harder at creating if he had lived past April 1945.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The signing of the China-Taiwan improved-ties agreements is a huge symbolic step, which may hopefully help remove one of the major stumbling blocks in our efforts to build a world not characterized by conflict and expectations of conflict.  (Of course problems will always exist, yet adults can negotiate them, and must if we are to survive the 21st Century as species,  rather than kill and war over them.) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also like Kenya declaring a national holiday.  The son of a Kenyan can become the world-imperator !!!  Here in the United states, the challenge for progressive blog-heads is to actually organize a political institution that will fight to educate and eventually cure America of the need to have an imperial foreign policy.  I’ve been talking about this for a year, and I have a record of relatively successful political organizing, I guess it’s up to me to do it …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s go even further.  We create our cultures, we create our political and economic institutions with every choice we make in these areas, and those involved in the military create those institutions with their every choice.</p>
<p>Somewhere between 1946 and 1951, the American military and intelligence institutions stumbled into an imperial culture, and they’ve been dragging the rest of us along into their nightmare ever since.  When I was child in the 1950’s and all our parents had been the 20-year-olds in the war, we could pretend it was fairly benign … yet with the counterattack of the plutocrats in the Carter Presidency and their triumph of Reaganism, and then morphing into the total corruption of the military- industrial- Congressional- media elites into an imperial class under Bush-Clinton-Bush II, it clearly has become cancerous to the planet.  The industrial-media corruption links in themselves, for example, have so far prevented any progress away from the oil/auto economy. </p>
<p>So what do we now create for future?  The question of the ages is, is Obama totally compromised by the military-media establishment (whose philosophy he had to embrace to navigate the media to get elected) and can we the people lead him and our still-retrograde Congress to newer and better choices that allow the creation of a world based on cooperation rather than conflict — as FDR fully intended, and might have worked harder at creating if he had lived past April 1945.  </p>
<p>The signing of the China-Taiwan improved-ties agreements is a huge symbolic step, which may hopefully help remove one of the major stumbling blocks in our efforts to build a world not characterized by conflict and expectations of conflict.  (Of course problems will always exist, yet adults can negotiate them, and must if we are to survive the 21st Century as species,  rather than kill and war over them.) </p>
<p>I also like Kenya declaring a national holiday.  The son of a Kenyan can become the world-imperator !!!  Here in the United states, the challenge for progressive blog-heads is to actually organize a political institution that will fight to educate and eventually cure America of the need to have an imperial foreign policy.  I’ve been talking about this for a year, and I have a record of relatively successful political organizing, I guess it’s up to me to do it …</p>
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		<title>By: Synoia</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3461</link>
		<dc:creator>Synoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;era of persistant conflict = era of consistant promotions&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>era of persistant conflict = era of consistant promotions</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3458</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’ve missed the whole point. When the Army says “era of persistant conflict” what they mean is “era of persistant budget increases”. They’re even fairly explicit about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This era of persistent conflict will result in high demand for Army forces and capabilities. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’ve missed the whole point. When the Army says “era of persistant conflict” what they mean is “era of persistant budget increases”. They’re even fairly explicit about it.</p>
<blockquote><p>This era of persistent conflict will result in high demand for Army forces and capabilities. </p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3457</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cliff105 — and yet at the same time, state dept. needs the feedback of defense in order to do an effective job, and they both need to have some respect for and ability to collaborate and cooperate with each others roles as government entities.  This era of running state and defense via corporatist ideology is part of the underlying problem; if every conflict is viewed as a potential profit center, of course there will be no end and persistent conflict.  Rather like rolling out a new product every damned quarter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s the missing part of the equation.  Conflicts are looked at as permanent campaign opportunities, and neither military nor state should be used for campaign purposes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff105 — and yet at the same time, state dept. needs the feedback of defense in order to do an effective job, and they both need to have some respect for and ability to collaborate and cooperate with each others roles as government entities.  This era of running state and defense via corporatist ideology is part of the underlying problem; if every conflict is viewed as a potential profit center, of course there will be no end and persistent conflict.  Rather like rolling out a new product every damned quarter.</p>
<p>That’s the missing part of the equation.  Conflicts are looked at as permanent campaign opportunities, and neither military nor state should be used for campaign purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: aspiringexpatriate</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3456</link>
		<dc:creator>aspiringexpatriate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Everything from great-power war to elective support to counterinsurgency is on the table. If so, then we’re talking in abstract terms about a bevy of hypotheticals that always exist.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shouldn’t the military always be preparing for new and emergent conflicts while focusing on all the possible future conflicts?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the COIN article one of the officers said “We won’t have time to focus on [blank] if we focus on [blank].”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe I’m overestimating our military, but can’t soldiers train for multiple contingencies at a time?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know it was hard work for my high school football team to focus on all the possible formations and plays, but, we still did it and were pretty good at it. (I know that’s a simplistic analogy, but it’s not completely out of left field, is it?)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Everything from great-power war to elective support to counterinsurgency is on the table. If so, then we’re talking in abstract terms about a bevy of hypotheticals that always exist.”</p>
<p>Shouldn’t the military always be preparing for new and emergent conflicts while focusing on all the possible future conflicts?</p>
<p>In the COIN article one of the officers said “We won’t have time to focus on [blank] if we focus on [blank].”</p>
<p>Maybe I’m overestimating our military, but can’t soldiers train for multiple contingencies at a time?</p>
<p>I know it was hard work for my high school football team to focus on all the possible formations and plays, but, we still did it and were pretty good at it. (I know that’s a simplistic analogy, but it’s not completely out of left field, is it?)</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff105</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3455</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spencer, your post reinforces the argument that military men should keep their noses out of foreign policy.  Do we really need these guys picking our enemies?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer, your post reinforces the argument that military men should keep their noses out of foreign policy.  Do we really need these guys picking our enemies?</p>
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		<title>By: NelsonAlgren</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/eraofpersistentconfusion/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>NelsonAlgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spencer:&lt;br /&gt;
Did you see C-Span yesterday?  Col. Mansoor was on.  It was taped, but he was speaking in front of the WAC(World Affairs Council) of Houston.  Interesting stuff.  He didn’t basically said that L. Paul Bremer was a know nothing douchenozzle.  It also led me to have a greater respect for Petraeus(if in fact the stuff Monsoor described was at the behest of Petraeus).  The whole Hugh Hewitt interview thing still leaves a bad taste in my mouth though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer:<br />
Did you see C-Span yesterday?  Col. Mansoor was on.  It was taped, but he was speaking in front of the WAC(World Affairs Council) of Houston.  Interesting stuff.  He didn’t basically said that L. Paul Bremer was a know nothing douchenozzle.  It also led me to have a greater respect for Petraeus(if in fact the stuff Monsoor described was at the behest of Petraeus).  The whole Hugh Hewitt interview thing still leaves a bad taste in my mouth though.</p>
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