A source close to the presidential transition just confirmed to me that Eric Shinseki, the Army chief of staff who stood up to Donald Rumsfeld and told the truth about the real military costs of the Iraq war, will be Veterans Affairs secretary. Apparently Obama will make the announcement on Meet The Press tomorrow.
To say this is an inspired choice underscores its magnitude. Shinseki’s personal courage and virtue are close to unparalleled in the current generation of general officers. He knows the sacrifices of war personally, as he left part of his right foot in Vietnam. The new generation of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans — already underserved by the country that sent them to war — can know that he has their backs. After all, before the war began, he all but ended his career (Rumsfeld had announced his successor months before after they feuded over the Crusader artillery system) by telling Congress that the indefinite occupation of Iraq would require hundreds of thousands of troops to keep the peace, far beyond the antiseptic and now-discredited estimates of the Bush administration. At his retirement ceremony, Shinseki gave a prescient and impassioned speech imploring the Pentagon to "beware a 12-division strategy for a 10-division Army."
Last year, an exemplary soldier named Paul Yingling wrote a scathing essay indicting the generals who acquiesced to the Bush administration’s inadequate plans for the occupation. It was titled "A Failure in Generalship." Yingling accused the current generation of generals of cowardice, egotism, careerism and dereliction of duty, putting self-interested deference to the administration before integrity, intellectual honesty and service to both the frontline soldier, sailor, airman and marine and the country itself. Ric Shinseki was the man who stood against this unfortunate trend, and he paid for his integrity with his career. To see him vindicated is to witness a proud moment in American history.



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This is extraordinarily good news. It means that the reign of the PNAC Platoon — the smug civilian hacks like Doug Feith, who General Tommy Franks famously called “the f***ing stupidest guy on the face of the earth” — is well and truly over at DoD. It also means that Gates is indeed committed to following Obama’s timetable for withdrawal.
Well said, Spencer. Getting our country back, one vindication at a time.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t the VA separate from the DOD? It may take awhile longer to prune the Bushies at DOD.
yay – about fucking time we had a truthteller who actually cares about our vets in charge
Tomorrow’s news tonight a FDL/Attackerman!
Great example that there are second lives in American politics. This one will be exemplary. A lot of vets and their families will heave sigh of well-deserved relief at this news.
Wow, Kirk’s post just vanished into thin air. Apparently, it’s not nice to fool Big Carbon.
Best Cabinet Pick yet:)
Yeah whats up with that?
Yeah, that happened to me too.
Hey, Spencer, great post. Do you have a link to Yingling’s essay. I’d really like to read that.
Nicely done, Spencer. If only Powell had had that courage.
But what will happen to the Bush cronies? Personally, I’d like to see them all forced to reside in the lower ninth ward. Then again, the folks there have suffered enough already.
congratulations to Gen. Shinseki on his nomination and to President-elect Obama for making an outstanding appointment.
That was strange. We were having a good time over there and poof!
Totally, I had a reply all composed, hit submit and it told me I couldn’t reply to a draft. I hit refresh and it gave me a 404 page. Now it’s gone!
Or say Fuck the Israeli government.
Maybe it was never there, we were just sharing a hallucination. Odd that, I’m usually the only one that sees them.
Sorry for the OT Spencer – but didn’t know where to go with it???
Anyway, Shinseki will do a really good job at the VA. I dare say the days of all these phony excuses for denying care for TBI and PTSD will be over. Thank you very much. And he will go fight with Congress to get the VA fully funded so they can stop rationing care.
He’s baaaaaaack.
Spencer, I watched NBC’s news broadcast this evening, and I can confirm via their MTP teaser that Obama does indeed state on MTP that Shinseki will be his ns Affairs secretary: Shinseki to head Vets Affairs
What better Cred do you need than being right about Iraq and be willing to get fired over that? Personal Integrity plus he was right to bad we only have one of him.
its back
I hope he does one other thing – make the DOD and the VA medical apparatus talk to each other so that when a soldier is discharged, his medical records and all the info needed for them to enroll and get whatever benefits they are entitled to automatically is transmitted to the VA. Right now, the soldier has to hand carry their files (if they can get them at all) and in some instances, they have been stuck trying to prove that they were actually IN Iraq since all their records are ‘lost’. Hmmmpf!
The Group Mind is sharing hallucinations Dang even more benefits of being a Lefty.
It was on NPR news at the top of the hour, as well.
Don’t know much about Shinseki but I like what I read. I’m particularly pleased at the Obama’s using this appt to shiv the old DOD crowd.
The Army has the worst reputation for the handling of personnel records. When I was in Nam that was the major complaint of most groundpounders. I knew some that hadn’t been paid in a couple months.
it certainly appears to live up to the change we can believe in rhetoric.
Yeah, this is really good news for vets. Hopefully, there will also be more assistance for wounded National Guard personnel. In a lot of cases, they’ve gotten shafted even worse than the folks in the regular military.
What happened to Doc Murphy’s post?
Oh and lets push to get all of Shrub’s and the Rethug policies rescinded so ALL veterans can get the care they were promised when they served our country with no questions asked when told to do the work of our country! Oh and throw a bunch more money at the system so it works they way it was intended to.
Well, the Navy wasn’t much better IMHO. I had my medical records ‘lost’ every time I moved to a new duty station. Let’s see…from boot camp to school…from school to Corpus Christi…from Corpus Christi to Norfolk #1…from Norfolk #1 to Norfolk #2. I wound up with nothing at the end of my tour, other than my own memory of what had happened. Gack!
It is all computerized so there should never be ANY LOST RECORDS! And if they do they pay some kind of a penalty to the Vet who was abused by the fuckup! It should never happen!
One step at a time.
gremlins – its back
In my opinion, the day the National Guard soldier gets orders for combat duty outside the borders of the United States is the day they become eligible for ALL the benefits of regular military personnel. No deviations. Period.
My favorite Shinseki story is the fellow officers wearing “Eric Was Right” hats hats at West Point after Bush/Cheney/Rummy unceremoniously puked on Shinseki and then botched the occupation he warned them about.
Problem right now is the DOD computer program doesn’t ‘talk’ to the VA one. That’s the issue.
And another thing – the VSTA medical records program the VA uses is the best in the country. However, Bush got some kind of mandate to get a new system. Health care personnel who’ve actually seen it say it’s a piece of crap. The VSTA program is open-source, and this new one is one of the Bush cronies deal – and they are getting paid millions to f**k the whole thing up. We need to rescind that stupid piece of crap as well.
In my opinion if they served in combat they should have their benies upgraded! But really all Vets should have benefits as good as the WWII and the Vietnam Vets. Asshole Rethugs cut them to save money! Lets cut all Rethugs pay and benefits for screwing the Vets!
Rummy will get the point on that more than most:) Isn’t Rummy coming out with a book soon that should be snark fest.
Daym! Set the traps for them critters! We don’t need them!
That’s the way it should be but I’ve read of several instances where wounded guardsmen were denied benefits or got stuck with medical bills. I think the sticking point in a lot of cases was that they weren’t technically serving in a combat role. Apparently, nobody informed the person planting the IED.
Back in the day of terminals hooking up to a mainframe, the one I was using (Burroughs) allowed you to type to the computer operator at any time by starting your message with a ?spo. Like if you wanted to ask whether your job had printed so you could pick up the results, you typed ?spo is my job done printing. But if you typed only a ?, then the enter key, the computer typed to you: I am the genie of the disk. What is your desire?
A lot of Vietnam vets are getting screwed over right now because of the ‘rationing’ scheme cooked up by Bushco. If they didn’t get signed up with the VA before a certain date and don’t have a minimum percent disability rating (kind of hard to get that if you can’t sign up) then you are just turned away. A survey just in Texas found that they had turned away over 320,000 vets in just the first year after this policy was instituted. Barf!
It was SOP to hand carry those! I can’t believe you didn’t know that, if you had to get all your shots all over again or didn’t get paid for three months you would learn! You must have had a lousy “Sea Daddy” or is that another tradition that has fallen by the wayside? Of course if anyone in admin disliked you, you were screwed…
The Book You Have – Not The Book You Wished You Had by Donald Duck Rumsfeld
Can’t wait for the Rummy book. It’s the only one where I want to see how he rationalizes what he did. I have an army major efriend who served as a Rummy gofer for awhile, who swore that Rummy would never write a book. Heh.
Yeah, there are a lot of horror stories and it isn’t just Guard troops that are having those kinds of troubles. I just read recently about a soldier who was wounded when the place where she was came under a rocket attack. Half a building fell on her, breaking her back, pelvis and both her legs. She’s being denied because she wasn’t ‘technically’ on combat duty. Someone told her that if they had only been able to find one piece of shrapnel or a bullet she would have been fine. WTF?
Shrub should lose his Presidential Benefits for screwing so many Vets! They at least DID serve our country unlike the asshole currently at the Whitehouse!
Kinda hard to hand-carry those when I went to get them and they couldn’t find them! Wasn’t that I didn’t know – when you got your orders you reported to medical to get your records. Hours, days and weeks went by until you HAVE to leave – they promise to mail them. But…..nada
yes–this is the way it should be done–let’s see more of these.
Whenever I was transferred my records went with me. That was standard procedure. Sealed in a large envelope with numerous copies of my orders on the outside. I have a complete copy of my record covering all 14 years.
And yes, at the Corpus Christi base the administration did NOT like me because I instigated a Congressional Inquiry into a policy that was unlawful. So…I guess.
Lucky you! *g*
A friend of mine is a hospice care nurse in the VA. VN vets now. Her unit works well according to what she says, but they’re all chronic & terminal, so everything is fairly predictable. (Bless her. I could not do that work.) She is also a welfare-reform success story.
I would agree with that one! But interestingly the VA files can’t be read by other Medical systems! In my case it is Stanford and they work hand in hand with them and provide first hand training for the new Docs at Stanford! We Vets here are subjects of their learning experience… not complaining as some of them are great but you would think their computer systems could talk to each other!
One thing I do like the about the VSTA is everything is there! Every visit, procedure and all your meds and watches for meds that react badly if take together!. Makes it hard for a Doc to screw things up for you!
They can always find some excuse to deny care. There was one instance I read of where a guy lost an arm and a leg and only had partial function of the remaining arm. Due to some technicality, the VA refused to designate him as disabled, or at least wouldn’t rule that he became so as a result of his service (wounded by an IED). Making people fight an unnecessary war is a disgrace. Failing to care for the wounded is beyond the pale.
You got an inside person who knows Rummy sounds like you have to do a Diary! I wonder how Rummy reconciles failure in Iraq, loyalty to Bush and the fact that America has the best army in the world…can he admit that Shinseki was right.
Or will Cognitive Dissonance produce some cross wired statements like a malfunctioning computer?
I’m betting on option b:)
Historical revisionism. Without it there could be no Bush Library.
It shouldn’t matter if she was on “Combat Duty” or not! The key if it was “In the line of duty”, which covers a multitude of sins, or “Misconduct”. That is the only basis of denial, well, that and the fact if they determine your ailment is valid or not. Believe me, they will seize on any opportunity to deny you, too! back in the day, we joked that their motto was “Delay, deny and hope I die” They can really be quite creative in denying you, but the key is pure stubborn persistence. I have been in the VA system long enough that I am all too intimately familiar with its ins and outs.
I would be more than happy to share my limited knowledge with your friend, if they would wish to speak with me. Otherwise, I would talk to the DAV, they’re the best of the lot for getting Compensation and Pension (C&P in VA Speak). The very first step is go to the local VA Outpatient Clinic and get a VA Card. You can mail me at ANBrooks at austindotrrdot com if you would like to talk further. The local Vets for Peace will help you out too.
Well there are always Pop Up books:)
Can’t get much info from him anymore. We were eintroduced by a mutual friend becuase she said he was anti-Iraq war (he was) and thought we could exchange info to mutual benefit. It sorta worked for awhile, but as I revealed how anti-military I am, the relationship got strained. Sent him an email about a week ago asking what he thinks of Gates staying as SecDef (he works in the Pentagon) but got no reply.
Historical revisionism. Without it there could be no Bush
Library.Libary.My personal favorite.
BTW, my army major efriend did remind me in about 05 of something that we’d all forgotten by then, which is that Rummy was serious about a lightening strike to overthrow the Iraqi govt then leaving with about only 30,000 U.S. troops there. I suspect that will be the theme of his book: if we’d only followed his original plan, everything would have been fine.
Hey NP how are you doing? Haven’t heard from ya in a bit? Are you all recovered from your last procedure?
Wait until the book comes out if Rummy trashes the army your friend will need to vent.
Historical revisionism. Without it there could be no Bush
Library. LibaryLIE-berry.It’s the thing that everyone thinks they need their ‘own’ proprietary system. Here, the State of Montana is developing a ‘new’ medical records program for its Medicaid providers or some such. I just don’t get why they need to spend millions on a new system when the VSTA program is open-source and available for basically nothing. And since it was first, and already has a history of operating well, it wouldn’t take too much tweaking to make it operational for private providers.
SUNY-New Paltz Art Gallery did an exhibit on pop-up books a couple of years ago, iirc. I’ll see if I can find a link.
thanks!
Took awhile but we got there.
There has to be interesting things going on in the Pentagon right now. Ever since that panel recommended sacrificing some of their most treasured exotic weapons systems, they must be in the full sweat mode, attempting to salvage their little empires! “But we need one Billion Dollar stealth destroyers…”
She’s got the VFW and the state Vets Coordinator working on her case, but thanks for the references. I am always talking to people about this stuff too. I’ve been in the VA a while myself, and live in a state where access is difficult due to distance and a lot of our clinics are brand new and still getting their feet wet on the system. Means a lot of errors and delays in paperwork. However, the actual care is great.
Here’s one event on pop-up books.
http://www.newpaltz.edu/newspu…..2005/0411/
Yeah that was the plan but to bad Rummy believed that we would be greeted with flowers. Cheney cooked the intelligence to show that and fantasy and Rummy based his plans on that intel. Lets see if Rummy will turn on Cheney?
I’m still for option b, option c is the least likely I bet it gets no mention in the book.
Thanks. As an artsy person I’ve always wanted to make a pop-up book but as fate would have it, I’m much too lazy.
The new MIC meme is that defense spending should just settle in at 4% of GDP. Currently 3% according to how this report was measuring it. That means they not only get to keep all their expensive toys but then some. MIC lobbying hard for that approach.
I think this is where I heard the discussion.
http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/…..errigan-4/
Apparently they are quite difficult to manufacture.
Seems like it would be easy to damage it irreparably before it was even finished, or after… I did a search for “pop-up book” at youtube and there is quite a bit available. This looks like a commercial product but I found it impressive.
Artsy as I get is making large letters for protest signs with stencils.
Even Andrew Cards cousin, the one they locked up warned them. She said
She asks what does Bush want to stop the war, the Lukoil contract?…
“Iraqi people hate Americans” and “the hatred has kindled deply because of the sanctions, Andy. Sanctions have killed 1.7 million human beings, including almost 1 million little children. Stop and think. What would an American father do to the man who killed three of his children, once that father could lay hands on his aggressor? Would he throw candy in the streets? No he’d beat him to death and stab him 100 times until his arms were sore.”
http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/p…..an2003.pdf
http://www.businessweek.com/ma…..803178.htm
But they locked her up http://pilotsfor911truth.org/f…..13552.html
nahant or anyone, what is up with the “Dugg by friends” tags on the Digg comments? Can you Digg Digg comments? If so I had better get busy, since I have been campaigning so hard to get folks to make them!
At least you’re putting it to good use. I spent all my non-art classes in high school drawing, skipped all my art classes to go smoke weed. 25 years of doing art as an occupation left me a little burned out on it though. Hopefully, now that I’m not forced to, my muse will return eventually.
Wow. That is one amazing pop-up book. I can understand how someone would get into collecting them.
I can picture that turd Jim Inhofe arguing against this nomination.
Inhofe was a big cheerleader for Crusader, and he probably thinks Shinseki is some sort of liberal white flag waver.
Thought you might like to see what Obama said he would do when he became Prez!
A Sacred Trust
We should push to kill all the army’s new toys we have to focus on rebuilding the army our tanks and Humvees etc were not designed to run constantly this long. Hard choices have to be made or the army can have a star wars program that still does not work and they can be ready to lose the next war too.
I’ll have to see if I can find out if that one is available. I’d just like to know what it costs. Given the amount of time that must go into it’s development it is hard to imagine how it would even be possible to break even.
The one thing that Obama is superb at is making his enemy ranters look like the crazies they are. Is Inhofe on the relevant committee? Perhaps Obama can teach Shinseki how to do it for the hearings.
I am not having problems Neuro! I get the same results as always.
I think Shinseki will be an excellent VA Sec., however, we will miss him here in the Isles, both parties tried to woo him for Guv…!
Disagree. Think the military choices are pretty easy & obvious. Listen to the link at my 76. The only “difficult” (read impossible) thing is to have the govt fight the MIC. Bwahahahaha.
Obama needs to roll this out big with a PR campaign we need some good news America needs to know we that Government is good for something.
I wasn’t questioning how well that function is working, just looking for an explanation as to what it is. If you click on the thumbs-up symbol on a comment, does that add a Digg vote to the underlying blog post? If so, I wasn’t aware of that.
He’s on Armed Services IIRC, not sure about Veterans’ Affairs.
I think it just means that you agree with the comment that you are thumbing! It doesn’t up the Digg count at the top!
thers is up at the mothership
That book is available new for $17.79 at Amazon, as low as $6.81 used. Amazing.
Ding Ding Ding. Get rid of anything the Shrub and the Repukes did to the VA and the Veterans Benefits!
What they have done to the Vets makes it so I can Never vote for a Repuke for any office…. I have completely lost any sense of trust in the whole party. They prove time after time that they could care less for the Vets and the working men/women in general!…
OMFG. How can they possibly sell that book for so little. All kinds of economic puzzles for economists.
I think that Shinseki will be a great VA Secretary; he is a true patriot who served in the military his entire adult life. And after all, he has experienced the VA system for the past 5.5 years as a veteran, right?!
I respectfully disagree with your characterization of General Shinseki, however, as standing head and shoulders above many of the current Generals. While his prescience and candor during his Feb 2003 testimony before HASC is remarkable, his tenure as Chief of Staff of the Army is a bit more complicated.
Obama has shown his brilliance again. What a perfect choice!
Then she was put away during the campaign
Now
And with her work in Iraq we learn this
Sorry, forgot the link
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0710/S00266.htm
Among many Bush policies that were/are vile, the vilest of them is the way veterans were treated. Obama’s choice of Shinseki is perfect for sending the message that Bush’s veterans policies will be quickly replaced.
Thanks, Spencer, for highlighting this cabinet choice that will allow America to feel our veterans are being looked after with love and respect.