Via TPM, which destroyed him, the man who said that a single American president’s prerogative can render the Geneva Conventions "quaint" muses:
"…for some reason, I am portrayed as the one who is evil in formulating policies that people disagree with. I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror."
Well, not the one, just one of the ones. This is former White House counsel and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ first substantial post-resignation interview, given to the Wall Street Journal, and aside from his tantrums of self-pity, he maintains that he "didn’t play a central role" in the administration’s program of torture, indefinite detention and warrantless surveillance. It’s hardly necessary to point out how this position is contrary to all the available evidence, and we’ve seen Gonzales lie and prevaricate throughout his time in the administration, most notably in his fateful July 2007 Senate Judiciary Committee testimony. Instead, here’s the judgment of history, delivered by Harold Hongju Koh of Yale Law School, speaking in January 2005 against Gonzales’ nomination to be attorney general:
Having worked in both Democratic and Republican administrations, and for more than two years as an attorney in the Office of Legal Counsel itself, I am familiar with how legal opinions like this are sought and drafted. I further sympathize with the tremendous pressures of time and crisis that government lawyers face while drafting such opinions.
Nevertheless, in my professional opinion, the August 1, 2002 OLC Memorandum [on torture, requested by Gonzales and, according to Bart Gellman, inclusive of his input] is perhaps the most clearly erroneous legal opinion I have ever read.
Perhaps this is Gonzales’ attempt at pushing the blame onto David Addington, John Yoo and Jay Bybee. If so, Attackerlady observes that at least Addington has convictions. Stand him up at the gates of hell, where he belongs, and he won’t back down. Nothing about Addington is worthy of respect, except arguably for that. Gonzales doesn’t even have backbone in his favor. Instead, this — about the infamous Ashcroft hospital visit — is how Gonzales operates:
…he gave the impression that he and Mr. Card were attempting to take advantage of Mr. Ashcroft. "I found Ashcroft as lucid as I’ve seen him at meetings in the White House," he said.
Jack Goldsmith has said he really feared that Ashcroft was going to die after mustering the strength to refuse Gonzales’ attempt at strongarming him into overruling Jim Comey and reauthorizing a surveillance program that the acting attorney general deemed illegal. What an appalling thing for Gonzales to say about Ashcroft.
So Happy New Year. May the next time we hear from Alberto Gonzales be at his trial.



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Thanks, Spencer. I opened the DIGG.
We can only hope that he truly is hunted, by war crimes prosecutors.
I say we chip in and buy them all a nice vacation package……perhaps to Spain.
“May the next time we hear from Alberto Gonzales be at his trial.”
From your lips to the ears of someone with the spine to put him there. Sneakthief, cheat, liar, the dishonorable Fredo in the dock and forced to spiel on his friends and mentors, a lovely image.
I am thinking the Hague.
Perhaps the ‘advance’ for his ‘tell-all’ book will, in some small measure, make up for the terrible victimization of this misunderstood and unjustly maligned worthy …
Let the ‘rehabilitations’ and rewarding begin.
A Congressional Medal of Honor is the least we may offer such a paragon of virtue and compassion.
Thank you, Spencer, for reminding us of the many contributions to civilizationa and civility made by this sadly neglected giant among us.
(Note: the preceding snark is for entertainment porpoises only … actually, I really do hope that Gonzales might get what he deserves, the Sunstein Doctrine, notwithstanding …)
i just received a newyorker email for upcoming events — including evenings with karl rove and james carville; bill maher and anne coulter; but probably most offensive, janet reno with john ashcroft and abu gonzales. i just don’t understand why the new yorker contributes to legitimizing these people.
These rethugs are big fans of outsourcing. Maybe we can outsource their prosecution and punishment.
479 hrs & 39 min
I can see how the transcript would read.
WSJ: Nice to have you here, Mr. Gonzales.
Gonzo: Who?
WSJ: Sorry, what?
Gonzo: Where is this?
WSJ: We’re the Wall Street Journal and we set up this interview with you, Mr. Gonzales, about your time as Attorney General.
Gonzo: Attorneys have generals? Cool.
WSJ: Yes, Mr. Gonzales.
Gonzo: Who?
i wonder what the status of the shrum admin @ the Hague might be right now? anything in the works?
Worst
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Spain will hopefully give them the Pinochet treatment and then it’s on to the Hague. Let them waive their pardons around there and see what happens.
Spain’s investigating Justice who charged Pinochet would provide a good front door to the Hague.
You is most cosmopolitan, mike, and I’m wid ya one hunert percent!
Whut’s sauce fer da gander …
Let us hope he gets to truly understand the meaning of “casualty”
479 hrs & 26 min
errr
torture was the war in Iraq which was NOT the war on terror, the war in Iraq IMPEDED the war on terror, torture IMPEDED the war on terror asswipe
The MAIN casualty of your assinine war in Iraq was our constitution and YOU are the maggot who facilitated that causalty asswipe
I wonder if Rumsfeld limits his travel in fear of arrest. He seems to have disappeared.
Not the way I want to see him “disappeared”
479 hrs & 17 min
This is a time to consider accumulating a list of all parties participating in the current administration, congress, and the judiciary who enabled the destruction of constitutional, law based government. A monument, somewhere on the Mall in view of the Capital, the White House, the Supreme Court, and the monuments be prepared, inscribed with all the names, to record for posterity the treason these people have done to the country, least it ever be forgotten by inhabitants of the Capital, the White House, the Court, or the citizens. That these names and their progeny will forever after be held in contempt and disrepute. The list should begin with the justices of the supreme court overturning by chicanery the results of a public election.
Everything will work out for Gonzo once the Bush Presidential Library/Amusement Park is built. He long ago landed a job as a tour guide and has been supervising the development of the audio-animatronic Bush exhibit. The robot will be reading “The Pet Goat” to the audience.
Gonzo belongs in a CELL rather than sitting down with ANOTHER of Rupert Murdoch’s propaganda outlets.
Oh shit. “A casualty in the war on terror” ????? Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break. You. Douchebag.
Note that Gonzales says “in formulating policies” so he isn’t blaming the givers of legal advice (himself, Addington, Yoo), he is blaming the policy makers. I wonder who he considers those people to be. Is it a ‘bipartisan’ gang of 8 or 9, or is it Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld?
Could this serve as the image for the GWB monument
http://www.fotosearch.com/DSN014/1789362/
479 hrs & 10 min
I suspeculate that ‘Rummy’ is jus’ refilling his coffers, being as how he sacrificed so much moola to devote hisself to public service, and, ’tis axiomatic that that kinda ‘endeavor’ is best done out of the sight (and mind) of the public.
Fergittin’ got its place, ya know.
At least Rummy doesn’t haf to subject himself to the public lamentaion (and its potential ‘humiliations’) that po’ ole ‘Gonzo’ is forced to stoop to (being as law firms just inexplicably ain’t innerested in hiring the ex-biggest attorney in the whole shebang).
T’aint “RIGHT”, no how.
Any respect I might have had for Yale and its law school has completely tanked after this administration. School motto?: Rules are for the other guy.
Also, I would hope we would prosecute our war criminals but did Germany prosecute theirs? It will take an internation third party to do it. Otherwise, all we will get is “let’s move on for the good of the country”. Which is a crock.
ditto.
Hmmmm…. A male in his 60’s, post-op in ICU, can be lucid.
The relevant point is that Ashcroft, even post-op in ICU, was evidently less delusional than Gonzo (who presumably was in a good state of health). That’s really saying something, particularly because for all we know Ashcroft still had residue anaesthetic in his system (which would help explain his being in ICU).
Personally, if it had been my husband, I’d consider suing Gonzo for attempted murder. Those monitors of John Ashcroft’s heart rate, fluid levels, oxygen intake, meds, etc must have told quite an interesting story after Gonzo’s ‘little visit’.
No matter how much I may disagree politically with John or Peggy Ashcroft, I really admire her chutzpah that night.
FWIW I believe Gonzales was Harvard Law.
Harvard also deserves disrespect for having granted Bush an MBA.
Alberto’s victimhood is quaint.
Addington will stand up and admit he’s a warrior in the war on terror — he’s BushCheneyCo’s Gordon Liddy. I’m not sure the Nixon Administration had an equivalent to Fredo’s worthless whining nihilism. He’s a garden-variety douchebag.
To the Hague. Let him learn there the difference between a ‘casualty’ and a ‘collaborator.’
I would like The Hague to come after a trial here in the US. The Hague is far removed (Cokie might even say exotic) and I’m not sure that Americans, in general, would pay much attention. I want Gonzo on trial here because I think he knows where all the bodies are buried and I want to watch him twisting in the wind.
Cheney lays the blame for the torture policy on Bush, and then claims Bush relied on the DOJ, trained military interrogators and intelligence officers. Which is non-sense since SERE recommended 4 hours of stress position and Rumsfeld, with a stroke of a pen, changed it to 8. And the military does not water board, and yet three men were subjected to water boarding on Bush’s watch.
From ABC News transcript on Dec. 16, 2008 -
Question: How important have your administration’s policies on surveillance, interrogation and detention been in protecting the homeland?
…
Cheney: The president made some very tough decisions, and we had some very able and talented people involved in the military and our intelligence services, making certain that we were able to keep the country safe.
…
Again, we proceeded very cautiously. We checked. We had the Justice Department issue the requisite opinions in order to know where the bright lines were that you could not cross.
The professionals involved in that program were very, very cautious, very careful — wouldn’t do anything without making certain it was authorized and that it was legal.
Gonzo bores me. I want Cheney behind bars. Lynne Cheney.
Maybe Vicki Iseman needs another lawyer? She is suing the NY Times for $27 million. Her defamation suit says that NYT suggested her and McCain were having a romantic affair.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/…..slur,66772
WSJ, if they had used a journalist and not a Murdoch asset, would have chewed up the “didn’t formulate policy” crap. In the original dispute over application of the Geneva Conventions, Taft as Gen Counsel at State had given a very good legal analysis (didn’t go far enough IMO, but it was solid and defensible) and Powell pushed it. THe “Decider” for the Decider on that was Gonzales, hence his Jan 2002 memo where he overrides Taft and tells the President that the best way to avoid war crimes prosecution is to pretend like Yoo makes sense.
Addington is just as much a shill as Gonzales – he’s just been a one person shill (Cheney’s boy) for so long he gives the impression of having had convictions just by virture of having shilled for one source long enough.
He’s too bad a lawyer to have been able to formulate ideologically supported convictions.
Maybe Pepperdine Univ. Law School could make him co-dean with Ken Starr so we’d know for sure that this is a man who should not ever again be allowed to practice law.
Venn Diagram of scandals showing Gonzales right in the middle of everything – a picture says 1000 words:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..54479.html
I find that hard to believe. This whole “writing” fad has been around for a while.
For instance, legal opinions from supreme court justices outlining their justifications for such policies as upholding the subjugation of US citizens based on the colour of their skin were committed to paper and are able to be read.
Perhaps this distinctly non-white-sounding guy just isn’t much of a reader.
I find it surprising that these judgments of “worst president ever” never seem to be accompanied by a recognition of the presidents and the policies you elevate above him to “not worst”. At some point, someone must have determined that the policies slavery and apartheid were somehow less abhorrent than the collective policies of the Bush administration*. Yet with all the BS waste-of-space blog posts we see on the net, this startling discovery didn’t seem to warrant mentioning. How odd.
*You remember the Bush administraion. It was the one where there was no string of assassinations to silence popular policies, no students gunned down on the streets while protesting, no mass internments of foreign-looking americans. That one.
This legal argument that forced sterilization of social undesirables is desirable, you can compare to the legal argument that the President’s powers are limitless in wartime.
Spencer:
Another very good post. It is preposterous for Gonzo to claim that he is a casualty of the war of error. Read what he says: “John Yoo had very strong opinions” like that is the determining factor? Holy shit. As Jim Comey said, one of the most important and crucial things a lawyer has to say is “No”. Even against people with strong opinions! Obviously Addington and Yoo just bullied this legal piece of jello. Well, they must be right because they say it so forcefully. I have come to believe that the administration did not so much play the fear card, as much as they were themselves just so afraid. They are a bunch of cowards. Cheney with his 5 deferments and his having better things to do during Vietnam. He is a freaking coward and Gonzo is a tremling bowl of mush.
Oh yeh. You go tell that one to the brown-looking people rounded up on 9/12/2001 as ‘material witnesses’ on the basis of no evidence whatsoever… other than their national origin, their race, and their religion.
Spencer:
Can you go back to your timeline on McConnell’s strange testimony about the incident on May 15, 2007 where we supposedly could not surveil in Iraq because of FISA burdens? “troops lives were jeopardized”
This was the day Comey testified to SJC about non-legal surveillance, an event Gonzo is still pissed about…..
I think the 12 hour delay was because no one at DOJ had the balls to sign off on illegal wiretapping after Comey gave his little surprise, so they had to track down Gonzales in Texas.
This “incident” was a big part of why FISA reform passed ultimately giving Gonzales immunity for past illegality.
Comey testified at 10am eastern. At 12:53 DOJ had a four hour debate in which administration officials “discussed legal and operational issues” about the surveillance….. Then they went looking for Gonzo in Texas….
How am I going to do that with the information you’ve provided ?
Either way, did you just seriously compare anything that happened in the last 8 years to the forthright public policy of internment of ALL Japanese nationals and American citizens of primary Japanese descent during WW2 ?
Are you fkn kidding me ?
Frequently when there’s a crime involving a black person, black people get picked up based on that alone. This however is not the same as a public declaration that ALL black people need to be put into concentration camps. Is your brain registering this ????