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		<title>By: Kilo</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5952</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Kos Diary also has a poll on whether one believes OBL is alive, dead, doesn’t matter, or don’t know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which, when posted on the day he releases yet another in a long line of post 2002 tapes, serves merely a judge of the kookiness of Kos readers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your poll is as valid as one asking whether anyone has any proof that Obama’s birth certificate is real. You don’t and you don’t know anyone who does. Either you should infer something from this, based on your predisposition for being a gullible conspiracy theorist, or apply the same standard of evidence you’ve used for judging whether Bush was a cyborg. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or generally just STFU with your truther BS.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Kos Diary also has a poll on whether one believes OBL is alive, dead, doesn’t matter, or don’t know.</p>
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<p>Which, when posted on the day he releases yet another in a long line of post 2002 tapes, serves merely a judge of the kookiness of Kos readers.</p>
<p>Your poll is as valid as one asking whether anyone has any proof that Obama’s birth certificate is real. You don’t and you don’t know anyone who does. Either you should infer something from this, based on your predisposition for being a gullible conspiracy theorist, or apply the same standard of evidence you’ve used for judging whether Bush was a cyborg. </p>
<p>Or generally just STFU with your truther BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilo</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5951</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I read an interview (I forget where and whom :-[ ) by a Obama insider who stated Obama wants accountability by Bushco, but if his Whitehouse pushed it, he’d get nothing through Congress&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well then, that makes it official. This lame, bitch arse excuse CAN be used for everything.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I read an interview (I forget where and whom :-[ ) by a Obama insider who stated Obama wants accountability by Bushco, but if his Whitehouse pushed it, he’d get nothing through Congress</p>
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<p>Well then, that makes it official. This lame, bitch arse excuse CAN be used for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: jaango</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5943</link>
		<dc:creator>jaango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama is now on ‘tenderhooks’ and it will be necessary for the bloggers to generate the political aspirations of various members of Congress to get an investigation up and running quickly.  Otherwise, Obama will have to face the wrath of the Right and all without the Democrats ‘having his back’, since they too want this subject to float down the River of Neglect, and thusly, doing no damage to the Republicans in the years ahead.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jaango&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is now on ‘tenderhooks’ and it will be necessary for the bloggers to generate the political aspirations of various members of Congress to get an investigation up and running quickly.  Otherwise, Obama will have to face the wrath of the Right and all without the Democrats ‘having his back’, since they too want this subject to float down the River of Neglect, and thusly, doing no damage to the Republicans in the years ahead.</p>
<p>Jaango</p>
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		<title>By: kyeo</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5942</link>
		<dc:creator>kyeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Woodward probably told him, “Listen, I’m tired of your chickenshit games! I don’t want hints. I need to know what you know.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodward probably told him, “Listen, I’m tired of your chickenshit games! I don’t want hints. I need to know what you know.”</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5941</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That would be great.  I guess we can’t lose our nerve with all of the innuendos flying around.  He’s a smart cookie. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m concerned about some of his choices…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I refused to be slowly boiled like a frog…again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be great.  I guess we can’t lose our nerve with all of the innuendos flying around.  He’s a smart cookie. </p>
<p>I’m concerned about some of his choices…</p>
<p>I refused to be slowly boiled like a frog…again.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5940</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Compelling water intoxication. It’s technically called &lt;a href=&quot;http://generalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/water_intoxication&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hyponautrea&lt;/a&gt; and killed Jennifer Smart in Sacramento (and that was VOLUNTARILY Acquiesced to). Here again you have a case where a torture is used that not only is likely to have a high risk of killing the individual, but also is unlikely to obtain any useful information since the victim &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a) will say just about anything to stop the suffering, and&lt;br /&gt;
b) becomes incoherent and confused, subject to suggestion, and irrational.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is yet another form of water torture used by the Japanese and others to compel forced confessions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compelling water intoxication. It’s technically called <a href="http://generalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/water_intoxication" rel="nofollow">hyponautrea</a> and killed Jennifer Smart in Sacramento (and that was VOLUNTARILY Acquiesced to). Here again you have a case where a torture is used that not only is likely to have a high risk of killing the individual, but also is unlikely to obtain any useful information since the victim </p>
<p>a) will say just about anything to stop the suffering, and<br />
b) becomes incoherent and confused, subject to suggestion, and irrational.</p>
<p>This is yet another form of water torture used by the Japanese and others to compel forced confessions.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think you have to ask yourself what is in it for bin Laden (if alive) and al Qaeda to prove he is alive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have to ask yourself what is in it for bin Laden (if alive) and al Qaeda to prove he is alive.</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/01/14/thetortureofalqatani/#comment-5938</link>
		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well if it’s wrong, we’ve got infrastructure in place and people engaged more so than I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, so I’d expect that we can fight back this time against the “centrists.”  This is what drove me crazy during the 1990s, where Liberal complacency was preventing any significant push back against DLC policies “since there was a Dem in the White House.”  Gets chills just thinking about that time again…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, I saw a article today about Mike Huckabee ripping on Sayrah Failin, and then saw how Obama had dinner with a the wacko pundits last night.  This is so fantastic!  Divide and conquer, baby!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if it’s wrong, we’ve got infrastructure in place and people engaged more so than I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, so I’d expect that we can fight back this time against the “centrists.”  This is what drove me crazy during the 1990s, where Liberal complacency was preventing any significant push back against DLC policies “since there was a Dem in the White House.”  Gets chills just thinking about that time again…</p>
<p>By the way, I saw a article today about Mike Huckabee ripping on Sayrah Failin, and then saw how Obama had dinner with a the wacko pundits last night.  This is so fantastic!  Divide and conquer, baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Arbusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arbusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;God I hope you’re correct, because Obama’s stance on many basic issues have us lefties gulping antacids!  If he’s this Machiavellian it’ll be interesting how the GOP will be lead around by the nose and will put Rove and Cheneys machinations to shame.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God I hope you’re correct, because Obama’s stance on many basic issues have us lefties gulping antacids!  If he’s this Machiavellian it’ll be interesting how the GOP will be lead around by the nose and will put Rove and Cheneys machinations to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the floodgates were getting ready to open, say, like Woodward has already been contacted by new sources, he would want to get out in front of it by doing a story now, no?  Pompous prick.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the floodgates were getting ready to open, say, like Woodward has already been contacted by new sources, he would want to get out in front of it by doing a story now, no?  Pompous prick.</p>
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