I keep mentioning the Swat Valley in Pakistan as the real center of the war on terrorism. The Al Qaeda-aligned Pakistani Taliban of Beitullah Massoud and affiliated extremist organizations have been trying for years to seize control of the bucolic former tourist attraction in Pakistan‘s Northwest Frontier Province, often with stunning brutality, and over the last several weeks a few thousand Taliban fighters have locked in bloody fight with Pakistani soldiers trying to clear the area of the extremists. Oh, and yesterday, the Pakistani government gave up.
The Taliban offered the government of President Asif Ali Zardari a truce in Swat, pending the establishment of Islamic sharia law. As the New York Times reports, the Pakistani Army evidently lacks a sufficient counterinsurgent capability, and that prompted the government and the military to talk terms, rather than continue a protracted struggle of uncertain outcome. (If ever there’s an argument for embedding counterinsurgency competencies into the U.S. national security apparatus, there it is.) The deal is being finalized, but here’s how provincial minister Ameer Haidar Hoti described it:
Hoti said troops would remain in “reactive mode” instead of “proactive mode” and would not target anyone unless threatened. He said army should be removed only after peace has been restored. Troops would play their role in reconstruction and rehabilitation, he added.
He also said the population in the area demanded to be ruled under Islamic law, but that may be an effort at saving face.
In any event, the previous Pakistani government of Pervez Musharraf tried signing a self-governance truce with militants in 2006 and it collapsed spectacularly. Perhaps this is just a time for both Pakistani soldiers and the Taliban to take a knee ahead of the next confrontation. But in the meantime, Beitullah Massoud is going to use his new Swat Valley safe haven to launch attacks against Zardari’s government — based barely 100 miles away — and to allow extremists a place to regroup before exfiltrating to neighboring Afghanistan to fight U.S., NATO and Afghan forces. And his allies will consolidate their hold on Swat by murdering the opposition, as they’ve been doing: the Times notes that Swat elected a secular party in last year’s elections, but the Taliban started assassinating its members and supporters.This is how a nuclear-armed country slips into failed-statehood.
Crossposted to The Streak.



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Well, as I’ve heard it said, you don’t make peace with your friends.
On the other hand, perhaps this is just a ploy to concentrate all the bad guys in one area. Then Zardari can use his vast array of drones on them, blaming the explosions on some other group.
He’s not Goldfinger.
Can you hear the bugles blowing CHARGE and the U.S. calvary rushing in to save the day?
Is it safe to assume that there are financial constraints involved in Pakistan’s decision? I know we’ve shoveled a lot of cash in their direction but as is always the case, most of it has been diverted from it’s intended use.
President
JohnsonObama is sending 10,000 more troops to Afghanistan.There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
-G
The U.S. doesn’t have the capability even if it had the desire. Plus, I suspect our collapsing economy is going to start curtailing some of the hawks’ military ambitions.
Most likely a train headed in our direction.
Is Obama in the Situation Room choosing drone targets?
The DOD will just say it was WWII that got the economy moving again. It could be a win win for them. More war production and more body bags.
Great commentary, how do you fight a culture that is praying for death and martyrdom instead of hope in the future. As long as this part of the world is living in abject squalor, the 21st century, for them, may well be the 12th Century. For these people the future holds nothing but misery!
Not the DoD. It’s always our civilian leaders with their superficial grasp of history, etc., who get us in trouble.
Just how much aid money have we given to Pakistan since 9/11 for their help against terrorists?
How much of that aid money is accountable? Do we know where it went?
Just how much land does Pakistan have to give up before we decide we can’t risk Al Queida getting them?
so what’s the pakistani government, that has received billions in aid from the U.S. over the years doing with the money? why give them anything? i’d say give the money to the indians instead to fend these losers off.
Funny thing about that…if the US hadn’t decided to meddle in Afghanistan with our Taliban buddies in order to kill Russians, we wouldn’t be in this muddle.
i wish you were right. they have zardari by the throot. there are half a million taliban now in karachi, in the southern part of pakistan. they are calling the shots. the taliban have attacked three nuclear facilities and now have two top nuclear scientists in their custody.
http://www.zeenews.com/World/2…..4news.html
zardari is useless.
“zardari by the throot”
is
“zardari by the throAt”
And the DOD just sits on the sidelines waiting for the civilians to make the call? I don’t think so.
Starve them of cash the Saudi’s fund their religious schools which not surprisingly seem to graduate a lot of future Al Quieda/Taliban types.
Closing the religious schools would be a start. Next everyone buys a hybrid who can afford it and we lower demand for oil.
Less oil demand less cash the Saudis have to spread terror.
Mod, how can I ask you an offline question (unrelated to this thread)?
Absolutely.
Tell me, how do you explain Gates, Ordierno and Petreaus, then? *G*
Suzanne is upstairs at the Mothership!
Gillibrand: Scared or Stupid?
Lesse, that would have been at the most recent, March of ‘08 . . . back up another 6 months makes the reported kidnappings in ‘07 . . . added that I’ve not read about any of that then or now . . . . well, I got me a big ole HMMMM goin on wondering what THAT’s all about and who planted it kinda thang goin on . . . . a very provocative old story, I must admit . . .
General Pervez Musharrif has left the building (with a billion US dollars given him by Bush). Mr. Musharrif is not available for comment. He’s enjoying a cocktail by the pool and his orders are that he not be disturbed – ever. Fuck You very much (says Pervy and Bush).
500,000 taliban in Southern Pakistan? In Karachi? And your other contentions? Links? Details, sources? I’ve not read about some of that, either . . . not that I’m all that as a professional researcher on all this, but I read enough to think I’ve got a clue about SOME of it . . . . one often overlooked fact about this whole Taliban label is that there are literally thousands of factions of both Sunni, Shia, local warlords, AQ splinter groups, and MORE that are heaped into one basket of Taliban . . . which is just not the case.
From India to Iran it’s a cluster phook of a myriad of tribal, political and religious histories that boggle the mind trying to piece them together in one coherent ball . . . cuz ya can’t.
Your Saudi funding of MANY insurgent efforts in Afghanistan, Pakistan and even India is spot on, only it don’t get real huge coverage in our MSM, does it (ok, nothing does, bad example on my part). A google would reveal some of the depths of that Saudi funding to not only the Madrassas of the ME but also directly to some insurgents who champion the Sunni Wahabbist cause against Shia of all types.
And I’ve been remiss, Spence, an excellent read and thanks for providing it.
no one knows where those scientists are, but there’s more about them targeting nuclear sites ….
http://www.longwarjournal.org/…..an_tar.php
and there’ now firmly entrenched in punjab, which is the heart of pakistan.
http://www.rediff.com/news/200…..-heart.htm
taliban in karachi
http://tinyurl.com/dhjnqa
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com…..69342.aspx
the indian media has a lot about this.
the pakistani police confirmed the kidnappings of the nuclear agency personnel.
p://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/south_asia/7240414.stm
As it happens, I did some reporting on this in 2007. We gave the Pak military $10 billion during (most of) the Bush administration’s tenure, in the form of untraceable cash transfers. Want to know what the Pakistanis did with the money? Tough shit!
At least the Taliban found some reconcilable elements .
This sounds like there is someone really smart or lucky in charge of Pakistan’s Taliban. The Mumbai attacks force Pakistan to concentrate more on its border with India. This leaves the Taliban free to expand and consolidate in the Northwest. In its enmity toward India, Pakistan is being hollowed out from within, which will leave it in an even weaker position toward India than it already is in.
This creates a strange situation for India. While a weak Pakistan is in its interests, a failed state is not. Yet even if it dialed back tensions over Mumbai, it is unlikely there is the will, the money, or the resources in Pakistan to go after the Pakistani Taliban.
Add in the global depression and it doesn’t look like either we or the Indians can do much to stabilize Pakistan. If economic conditions were better I would suggest a lot of aid to modernize Pakistani industry and fold its urban centers into the world economy. This would I think act as a counterweight to Muslim fundamentalism, or at least a moderating influence. This doesn’t seem possible now. So we may be watching the slow unraveling of Pakistan. And then the strategic question becomes what will India do?
the pakisitani taliban cannot exist without collusion from the pakistani ISI (inter services intelligence). india has to target the ISI which facilitates the taliban operations. the terrorists who attacked mumbai were trained in a terrorist camp that is operated practically next to a military base in pakistani punjab.
Maybe he’s doing all he can, but it’s just a hopeless situation.
What’s the solution to preventing the Taliban (and allies) from taking over Pakistan and the nukes?
We don’t belong in any of the places Americans are currently losing their lives. History tells us that no matter how technologically advanced an invader is the people of Afghanistan always unite and prevail to fight each other another day while the Pakistanis in the NWP are Pashstun who are ethnically tied to a group of the Afghanistan people and probably possess their innate hatred of ferangi in their country.
i don’t believe he’s doing all he can. who supported the formation of the taliban? it happened during his wife’s reign as prime minister. the army officers who helped set them up are still around.
the solution is to purge the pakistani military of those who support the taliban. also, stop their supply of funding
- from saudi arabia
- from the opium trade
-from the ‘taxes’ that the taliban collect in all the territories under their control
How?
Let’s see, that would be about 10 days after Osama bin Laden’s financial advisor A.Q. Khan was freed from “house arrest.”
Funny how these things happen.
bin Laden had most of his money invested with Madoff.
stop giving them money for nothing. that would be a good start.
that was a spoof by comedian andy borowitz.
I have been wondering that myself. Whether the SIGINT spooks are playing a larger role than we know about in these operations. You can do quite a lot once you have a dedicated target.
9/11 was 7 years and a hell of a different time ago for the Taliban et al. They’re now fighting a full scale war on one front and running a not insignificant insurgency on the other. I’d find it hard to believe they’re doing all that with absolute communications discipline.
A lot of the guys in charge have been in charge since the 80s and 90s. I’m wondering if that’s not an accident. Whether cutting off the head and having to deal with the scattered, decentralised, self-forming cells that result is really a desirable alternative.
I thought I was joking.
But I see your point. Maybe the Swat Valley while be the same as Idaho.