Comments on: It Was Against The Law

By: mui1

mui1 — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:52:31 +0000

It’ll be especially interesting to see what he says about the legality of rendition in particular, and, relatedly, on the repatriation of detainees to countries where they’re likely to be abused, as with the Uighurs at Guantanamo Bay that Daphne has so diligently been tracking.

Last I heard, Mainland China doesn’t want them. I’ve read that MC didn’t want Albania or any other country to take them. Which leaves . . . the US. I’d hate to think of “repatriation” as the equivalent of “disappeared.”

By: politicat

politicat — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:44:17 +0000

I had to read a lot of Harold Koh for a class I took on U.S. Foreign Policy Law. I have to say that at that time I decided, and have had no reason to reconsider, that I want this guy as the next Supreme Court justice.

By: mui1

mui1 — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:36:50 +0000

It’ll be especially interesting to see what he says about the legality of rendition in particular, and, relatedly, on the repatriation of detainees to countries where they’re likely to be abused, as with the Uighurs at Guantanamo Bay that Daphne has so diligently been tracking.

Yes, let’s see if the Obama administration can be legal and humane and honorable to those whose lives were shattered at Gitmo. Let’s see how if they can settle the situations of detainess who have become stateless persons like the Uighurs(taking into account that the Uighurs were falsely imprisoned and supposedly tortured at Gitmo by both the US and Mainland Chinese.) Let’s take into account that our government has caused many of the detainees to become stateless persons and therfore defenseless, and that is something the Nazis prior to the holocaust. Reparations are in order.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:23:24 +0000

As I haven’t heard of the lady, I’m more likely to obliviously be her acolyte.
Thanks, while I enjoyed playing, it doesn’t sound like I got a lovely parting gift.

By: MEC0

MEC0 — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:50:11 +0000

Excuse my ignorance; does this appointment need to be confirmed by the Senate, or are the Republicans unable to delay it?

By: eagleaz4

eagleaz4 — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:35:39 +0000

For the record, I got your joke and actually laughed out loud…but this
is serious stuff we’re talking about here.

With regard to rendition, I obviously (or so I thought) meant “extradinary redition”, whereas one is picked up off the street in “a foreign country” and taken to another “foreign country” where one is subjected to uh…”extraordinary interrigation techniques.” Which in Cheneyese means torture.

Which is a War Crime.

Unless, of course, you’re a Repubican.

Thanks for playing. I’ll take “Renditions for $600″ back because you’re obviously a Michele Bachman acolyte.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:18:21 +0000

If you object to my little rendition joke, I’m sorry to hear that, but I thought that I was trying to help answer your question.
You have to define renditions in other terms, and unless other crimes result in murder there are going to be time limits. A possible exception would be if the crimes were to be found to involve conspiracy. If so all criminal actions of a conspiracy are, in theory, not subject to time limits until the date of the end of the conspiracy. At that time, the usual limitations start their countdown.

By: eagleaz4

eagleaz4 — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:09:32 +0000

Feel free to mock all you want…I would just like to see the Bush Crime Family behind bars. And yes, I am somewhat concerned that Obama’s little nuances in some of the recent pleadings will just drag things out, which is why I’m concerned about the statute of limitations.

Emptywheel’s done a great job with all of this…Obama’s actually sided with the Bush Administration in some of these filings…but after hearing Jonathan Turley on Rachel tonight, it seems to me that eventually Obama’s gonna either have to shit or get off the pot.

Once the next three “memos” come out, he might have no choice but to appoint a Special Prosecuter.

I think perhaps that’s Obama’s game… he’ll let “events” force his hand in assigning same…the man is very shrewd.

At least, I hope so.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:57:09 +0000

Well, I certainly can do a very nice rendition for $600, but I don’t think I’ve seen rendition defined as a war crime anywhere.
You might want to see the War Crimes Act of (I think) 1996 for US law. I would think that the usual rules apply, murder and complicity in murder have no time limit for bringing an indictment.

By: eagleaz4

eagleaz4 — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:39:58 +0000

Torture specifically…but we’ll also take Renditions for $600…