Comments on: Absolution

By: MrChip

MrChip — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:58:58 +0000

Yes it is. Only the tea baggers want to break up the USA. It’s our duty to clean up our own messes.

By: Dredd

Dredd — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:58:27 +0000

The rationale that it is “looking backward” to prosecute but “looking forward” not to prosecute begs the question “looking how far”?

Not looking past ones nose renders the direction one is looking moot:

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/.....obama.html

By: slide

slide — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:54:27 +0000

eCAHN said ” Hasn’t the U.S. been successful following such a process?”

Yes the U.S. has been very successful at being a bully in the world, starting unnecessary wars, committing war crimes, killing people for no good reason all over the world and committing other egregious acts. Is that the kind of success we can be proud of?

By: slide

slide — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:50:17 +0000

Well said Hugh. Obama is taking actions to cover up the criminal conduct. As you know that is complicit in the underlying crimes. It is also a violation of his oath of office and the federal criminal code. He knows that but does not care. With such conduct on the part of Obama it will lead to him engaging in criminal conduct. Once a person starts on a path of criminality it is almost impossible to stop.

By: slide

slide — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:44:32 +0000

eCAHN said “Is it worth tearing the U.S. apart?”

The U.S. is being ripped apart with the ratification of the war crimes having been conducted in our name. The only way to repair the damage which has been done is to investigate, charge those who perpatrated the crimes and put them in prison. That will begin to repair the damage.

By: slide

slide — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:39:10 +0000

Hi eCAHN…yes it is worth it. The reason is that this nation is based upon the rule of law. That is why we have a criminal justice system to feret out, investigate and convict criminal behavior. If the perpatrators of and those complicit in the criminal act of torture are excused for their criminal acts it turns the very idea of the criminal justice system in this country on its head and renders it impotent and useless. We citizens are entitled to retribution for what was done in our name. We deserve justice. It is not a political issue. It is purely an issue of criminal conduct that requires to be resolved so that justice can be served. Anything short of that renders our society, as we would like to know it, dead.

By: azportsider

azportsider — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:17:28 +0000

There won’t be any public firestorm, Bob. The msm will bury this story just like they did the Downing Street Minutes, and the great majority of the American sheeple will never know about it. Don’t ever forget who owns the msm, and where their interests lie. But the msm isn’t the only culprit; there’s a strong core of self-delusional American exceptionalism in the sheeple that plays right into the msm’s hands.

By: worldwidehappiness

worldwidehappiness — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:23:28 +0000

Spencer Ackerman wrote:

“What the memos leave unclear is how much the CIA jumped into the torture game and how much the Bush administration pushed it.”

It takes a special kind of person to order these things and to do these kinds of things.

Mountain Man: I bet you can squeal like a pig. Weeeeeeee!
Bobby: Weee!
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Mountain Man: What do you want to do now?
Toothless Man: [grinning] He’s got a real pretty mouth on him, don’t he?
Mountain Man: Ain’t that the truth.
Toothless Man: [to Ed] You gonna do some prayin’ for me, boy. And you better pray real good.

By: pdaly

pdaly — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:57:13 +0000

First Lieutenant Watada’s refusal to follow orders (refused to deploy to Iraq because he believed the war illegal and that it would be a war crime for him to participate) is interesting in that light.

He’s still not out of the woods wrt government/court martial shenanigans (shenanigans on the government’s part)

By: MarkH

MarkH — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:13:07 +0000

Maybe Bush was afraid bin Laden would come forward and talk about 9/11 and al Qaeda activities and his involvement with the CIA, so he tortured people to let bin Laden know he had better stay quiet.

There are many possible explanations for why all this was made to happen.