Comments on: Does Israel Really Want A State? http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/ Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:59:36 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Leen http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9274 Leen Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:57:33 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9274 <p>One of my dear friends who has been to Israel over 10 times for long periods of time and lived with the Palestinians as their homes were bulldozed, walked Palestinian kids to school who were spit on and screamed at by settlers , watched young Palestinian men be humiliated and then had the shit beat out of them by Israeli soldiers has me convinced that Israel has never wanted Peace or a state based on the 48 or 67 border. That it is all about expansion of settlements and territory at what ever cost.</p> One of my dear friends who has been to Israel over 10 times for long periods of time and lived with the Palestinians as their homes were bulldozed, walked Palestinian kids to school who were spit on and screamed at by settlers , watched young Palestinian men be humiliated and then had the shit beat out of them by Israeli soldiers has me convinced that Israel has never wanted Peace or a state based on the 48 or 67 border. That it is all about expansion of settlements and territory at what ever cost.

]]> By: areg http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9269 areg Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:00:13 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9269 <p>Spencer,</p> <p> Netanyahu’s new administration has clearly stated that they are not interested in a two state solution, and yet the Obama Administration says they are. Not sure how these two discrepancies will jive in the end - its almost like the occupation is so permanently ingrained in people’s minds that neither group can see any benefits to having new redrawn borders - the more rockets fired from Hamas, the more hardline government we have to deal with from Tel Aviv - its a viscous cycle.</p> Spencer,

Netanyahu’s new administration has clearly stated that they are not interested in a two state solution, and yet the Obama Administration says they are. Not sure how these two discrepancies will jive in the end – its almost like the occupation is so permanently ingrained in people’s minds that neither group can see any benefits to having new redrawn borders – the more rockets fired from Hamas, the more hardline government we have to deal with from Tel Aviv – its a viscous cycle.

]]> By: fasteddiez http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9256 fasteddiez Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:24:39 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9256 <p>RE: Palestinian/Orioles construct:</p> <p>So Spencer, if we buy that, who is the Palestinian Brooks Robinson?</p> <p>As for the Israeli Lose-Lose Schtick; they’re not to bad at gaining influence in certain regions: a legion or congresscritters here, an attorney general there, a vice-president here, a department of defense there. When you get to where you’re going, there you are.</p> RE: Palestinian/Orioles construct:

So Spencer, if we buy that, who is the Palestinian Brooks Robinson?

As for the Israeli Lose-Lose Schtick; they’re not to bad at gaining influence in certain regions: a legion or congresscritters here, an attorney general there, a vice-president here, a department of defense there. When you get to where you’re going, there you are.

]]> By: gregsanders http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9255 gregsanders Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:44:54 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9255 <p>Well at least we have a nice ballpark. Although I guess that’s sort of true of the West Bank. If peace is ever achieved they’re guaranteed a tourist industry. Gaza could presumably also take advantage of its water access but as far as I know doesn’t have as many places for pilgrims to visit.</p> Well at least we have a nice ballpark. Although I guess that’s sort of true of the West Bank. If peace is ever achieved they’re guaranteed a tourist industry. Gaza could presumably also take advantage of its water access but as far as I know doesn’t have as many places for pilgrims to visit.

]]> By: Endymion http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9253 Endymion Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:50:11 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/04/23/does-israel-really-want-a-state/#comment-9253 <p>You know, Israel could solve those demographic realities by simply <em>giving up territory</em>, pushing their Jewish population into a smaller, denser geography. It’s almost as if Israel doesn’t <em>want </em>to be a Jewish Democracy!<br /> /ass</p> You know, Israel could solve those demographic realities by simply giving up territory, pushing their Jewish population into a smaller, denser geography. It’s almost as if Israel doesn’t want to be a Jewish Democracy!
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