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	<title>Comments on: What Dick Cheney Wants Dick Cheney Is Going To Get</title>
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		<title>By: AlchemyToday</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m 99% sure these are just memos detailing the direct line that Cheney and Andy McCarthy and Michael Hayden draw between torturing Abu Zubaydah and stopping the Library Tower attacks in LA.  See McCarthy’s post at the Corner here - &lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTEzMjc3YWU3ZmJiNzA3NThhNjdiMmY4MDkzNjRlMDY=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://corner.nationalreview.c.....kzNjRlMDY=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Together Zubaydah and bin al Shibh provided information that helped in the planning and execution of the operation that captured KSM. KSM then provided information that led to the capture of a Southeast Asian terrorist named Zubair — an operative with the terrorist network Jemmah Islamiyah, or JI. Zubair then provided information that led to the capture of a JI terrorist leader named Hambali — KSM’s partner in developing a plot to hijack passenger planes and fly them into the tallest building on the West Coast: the Library Tower in Los Angeles. Told of Hambali’s capture, KSM identified Hambali’s brother “Gun Gun” as his successor and provided information that led to his capture. Hambali’s brother then gave us information that led us to a cell of JI operatives that were going to carry out the West Coast plot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is entirely at odds with what anonymous sources are telling the Post and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Times&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;He also disputed an article in The New York Times on Saturday that said Abu Zubaydah had revealed nothing new after being waterboarded, saying that he believed that after unspecified “techniques” were used, Abu Zubaydah revealed information that led to the capture of another terrorist suspect, Ramzi Binalshibh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Times article, based on information from former intelligence officers who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Abu Zubaydah had revealed a great deal of information before harsh methods were used and after his captors stripped him of clothes, kept him in a cold cell and kept him awake at night. The article said interrogators at the secret prison in Thailand believed he had given up all the information he had, but officials at headquarters ordered them to use waterboarding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He revealed no new information after being waterboarded, the article said, a conclusion that appears to be supported by a footnote to a 2005 Justice Department memo saying the use of the harshest methods appeared to have been “unnecessary” in his case.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m 99% sure these are just memos detailing the direct line that Cheney and Andy McCarthy and Michael Hayden draw between torturing Abu Zubaydah and stopping the Library Tower attacks in LA.  See McCarthy’s post at the Corner here &#8211; <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTEzMjc3YWU3ZmJiNzA3NThhNjdiMmY4MDkzNjRlMDY=" rel="nofollow">http://corner.nationalreview.c&#8230;..kzNjRlMDY=</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Together Zubaydah and bin al Shibh provided information that helped in the planning and execution of the operation that captured KSM. KSM then provided information that led to the capture of a Southeast Asian terrorist named Zubair — an operative with the terrorist network Jemmah Islamiyah, or JI. Zubair then provided information that led to the capture of a JI terrorist leader named Hambali — KSM’s partner in developing a plot to hijack passenger planes and fly them into the tallest building on the West Coast: the Library Tower in Los Angeles. Told of Hambali’s capture, KSM identified Hambali’s brother “Gun Gun” as his successor and provided information that led to his capture. Hambali’s brother then gave us information that led us to a cell of JI operatives that were going to carry out the West Coast plot.</p>
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<p>This is entirely at odds with what anonymous sources are telling the Post and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html" rel="nofollow">the Times</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>He also disputed an article in The New York Times on Saturday that said Abu Zubaydah had revealed nothing new after being waterboarded, saying that he believed that after unspecified “techniques” were used, Abu Zubaydah revealed information that led to the capture of another terrorist suspect, Ramzi Binalshibh.</p>
<p>The Times article, based on information from former intelligence officers who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Abu Zubaydah had revealed a great deal of information before harsh methods were used and after his captors stripped him of clothes, kept him in a cold cell and kept him awake at night. The article said interrogators at the secret prison in Thailand believed he had given up all the information he had, but officials at headquarters ordered them to use waterboarding.</p>
<p>He revealed no new information after being waterboarded, the article said, a conclusion that appears to be supported by a footnote to a 2005 Justice Department memo saying the use of the harshest methods appeared to have been “unnecessary” in his case.</p>
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