As mentioned yesterday, Colin Powell’s former State Department chief of staff, ret. Army Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, posted at The Washington Note that an “investigation” he was conducting determined that the Bush administration torture program existed primarily to manufacture “a smoking gun linking Iraq and al-Qa’ida” to justify an invasion. That’s a line of inquiry suggested by the Senate Armed Services Committee’s recently-declassified torture investigation. But Wilkerson went further, writing that former Vice President Dick Cheney’s office took a particular interest in the torture of al-Qaeda detainee Ibn Shaikh al-Libi — who recently was found dead in a Libyan prison — evidently believing he could provide such a smoking gun:
[E]ven when the interrogation team had reported to Cheney’s office that their detainee “was compliant” (meaning the team recommended no more torture), the VP’s office ordered them to continue the enhanced methods. The detainee had not revealed any al-Qa’ida-Baghdad contacts yet. This ceased only after Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, under waterboarding in Egypt, “revealed” such contacts. Of course later we learned that al-Libi revealed these contacts only to get the torture to stop.
Did Wilkerson mean to say that? And what was the genesis of that “investigation,” anyway? I caught up with Wilkerson via email.
["Investigation" is] just a term I use. Probably more appropriate to say “research”, as I am an academic now.
In 2004, just before the Abu Ghraib photos were plastered over the country, Secretary Powell walked in to my office and told me the photos were going to be revealed and to find out what had happened. He said that Will Taft, his Legal Advisor, was working on the legal aspects and he wanted me to work on the political aspects as well as how we got to where we were–a chronology and such. From that point on, I have been “investigating”. I have not ceased.
Wilkerson didn’t specify a timeline for the torture of al-Libi, but he did write that manufacturing the “smoking gun” was the context for the Bush administration’s top-level deliberations in “April and May of 2002″ about adopting an “enhanced interrogation” program for use on Abu Zubaydah, then the senior-most al-Qaeda captive in CIA custody. Al-Libi, however, was in CIA custody at the end of 2001 and rendered to Egypt for torture in or around January 2002. Thomas Joscelyn did some inferential reading at the Weekly Standard’s blog to refute Wilkerson:
Wilkerson’s facts do not add up. Al Libi’s original testimony regarding Iraq-al Qaeda links occurred months before Wilkerson says waterboarding was used to get this admission out of him. We know this because the DIA filed a report saying that it did not trust al Libi’s testimony regarding the training of al Qaeda operatives in Iraq in February 2002 -– two months before Wilkerson says the Bush administration authorized the Egyptians to use harsh interrogation methods on al Libi.
So, when Wilkerson writes that “the [Bush] administration authorized [the] harsh interrogation [of al Libi] in April and May of 2002” and al Libi “had not revealed any al Qa’ida-Baghdad contacts” until then, he is clearly wrong. Al Libi, according to the DIA, first discussed this putative tie between the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda before Wilkerson says that harsh interrogation techniques were authorized by Vice President Cheney.
As Joscelyn writes, the DIA indeed filed a February 2002 notice indicating distrust for al-Libi’s claims about Iraq assisting al-Qaeda’s efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction. “It is more likely that this individual is intentionally misleading the debriefers,” a DIA report known as DITSUM #044-02 reads. “Ibn al-Shaykh [al-Libi] has been undergoing debriefs for several weeks and may describing [sic] scenarios to the debriefers that he knows will retain their interest.” Yet al-Libi’s dubious information made its way into the intelligence bloodstream, all the way up to Colin Powell’s since-discredited 2003 speech to the United Nations justifying the invasion — the first draft of which had a big assist from Cheney’s office, including then-chief of staff Scooter Libby. In March 2004, after the invasion, the CIA withdrew its support for al-Libi’s claims.
Joscelyn wrote, “It is doubtful that any part of Wilkerson’s story is true.” I asked Wilkerson if he wished to respond.
If their account is the accurate one, explain to me why Tenet and McLaughlin [then the director and deputy director of the CIA] came to Secretary Powell in February 2003–yes, 2003–with the information about al-Libi as if it were fresh as the morning dew. Powell was ready to throw out almost everything Tenet had given him on the contacts of Baghdad with terrorists, particularly al-Qa’ida. Suddenly, on 1 Feb, there was the shocking revelation of a high-level al-Qa’ida operative who had just revealed significant contacts between al-Qa’ida and Baghdad. Powell changed his mind and that information went into his presentation to the [United Nations Security Council] on 5 Feb 2003. We were never told of the DIA dissent.
And what about the timeline — or suggested timeline — in the original post?
I am basing my conclusions on the fact that DCI Tenet and DDCI McLaughlin presented the information about al-Libi to Secretary Powell in Feb 2003 and not in Feb 2002. The strong impression was that the interrogation had just occurred or, at a minimum, that Tenet had just received the information (otherwise, why wouldn’t they have given it to Powell much earlier, say when he first expressed concerns over the terrorist links some days earlier?). I have no idea when the Egyptians waterboarded al-Libi other than what Tenet and McLauglin implied in their presentation to Powell–which, incidentally, was quite effective on him.
Who says the Egyptians tortured al-Libi in Feb 2002? I’m prepared to modify my views if that can be proved. But not by much because that is a minor part of my position.
Crossposted to The Streak.



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Thanks for the legwork, this clarifies things some.
Go Wilkerson. Better late than never
Thanks, Spencer. Wilkerson is being a bit loose with the timeline. Seems the concept that Cheney was hand-directing torture from his undisclosed location awaits better evidence.
wilkerson has been on cheney’s case for some time now calling the cheney wing a “kabal”, corporate media simply hasn’t given his story any legs
We are a long way from knowing where this will go, but this is an interesting thread. As far as I know, except for his backing of Powell (however misguided), no one has refuted Wilkerson.
Thanks Spencer.
Professional apologist Ron Christie on Shuster right now insinuating Wilkerson is a disgruntled ex employee (I was wondering how long it would take).
Nevermind that Cheney is a disgruntled exVP
I don’t get it. There is documentary evidence that al-Libi gave it up in 02 by Wilkerson claims Powell wasn’t told until 03? Go with the documents would be my inclination.
The document refutes Wilkerson if I am understanding correctly.
spence, here’s the gorilla in the room and everyone is missing it;
the cia told cheney there was no link, cheney insisted they create a link anyway
he had absolutely no reason to doubt his inteligence gathering agencies but he wanted them to give him that link anyway
when they told him there was no link he said;
“so?”
This is the only explanation possible for why the cabal would need to use “enhanced techniques” a/k/a sadism on detainees when less “rigorous” methods were more effective at obtaining accurate information.
Yep. Ding. And I owe ya a coke.
is there any on air mention of yesterday’s report from former MSNBC News Producer Robert Windrem on Cheney suggesting torture of a POW to estabish link ?
Stephen Hayes, in The Connection, sez that Tenet reported al Libi’s info to the Senate Intelligence Committee in the fall of 2002.
Now Hayes wrote the book after al Libi recantation was widely known (I got it from his wiki), and he never mentioned that in the book. The book also has no sources, not even an index. It was clearly a neocon attempt to cobble together bogus info all in one place, then tout it on his book tour. So he is hardly a reliable reporter, but it is interesting that he sez the Senate Intel Com was briefed before Wilkerson sez Powell was told.
TORTURE IS A WAR CRIME. ANYONE AUTHORIZING IT, DOING IT OR REFUSING TO PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DO IT IS A WAR CRIMINAL.
Oh, I don’t know…right now I’m barfing about the fact that Marsha Blackburn is on Tweety saying the “burden of proof” is now on Pelosi. whatever that means.
This might be what you are looking for. Rachel Maddow has Windrem on her show.
apparently windrem is in part 2.
saw it last night. Duelfer alone should have been enough to shut ‘em up but of course, facts are troublesome things.
I was poorly making the point – Wilkerson could be wrong, but they all have some splaining to do on Duelfer’s claim – we are talking about a POW for goodness sake
p.s. in case it’s news here
Panetta issued a statement to his troops about an hour ago
Greg Sargent
thanks btw
The criminals are turning up the volume on the wurlitzer full blast. It’s all they’ve got.
greg sargent strikes an interesting note, my bold;
I say it is a call for an investigation and I believe the professionals in the organization want the entire affair exposed
this might be code for;
“please help us out here”
I sure hope congress recognizes that or takes it as a plea for help even if it’s not
team b is in the cia but they’re morons running around mucking up the works
the real inteligence is with the professionals and this might be them asking for some congressional help exposing team b
thanks for the link.
So, iow, we have issued a report that we do not stand by, we might be right, we might be wrong, it’s up to you guys to figure it out, we’re professional misinformation artists and you have to figure out if we’re lying now or not, and we stand by this statement that you need to verify our report.
That’s an interesting take. Very interesting.
I was wondering if they cannot admit certain things but want them discovered and they want the connections to people who originated the illegal nasties to be exposed, as you say.
dosido, there are at least two embattled factions in the cia
there is cheney’s team b, this team was put together by cheney/rumsfeld during nixon to unvent data intended to undermine nixon’s detante
google that, you will be amazed
then there are the professionals that actually analize real data, the two are not the same though they work in the same agency
here’s a primer on team b and be amazed that article was written BEFORE we went into Iraq on the falsified cheney data
As for Panetta’s ’pushback’: This is a challenge to Congress to assert its oversight or lay down and die. He’s saying ”Prove you [Pelosi] and Bob Graham are right.” Which can’t be proven. It’s their word against the CIA’s assertions. Graham said he didn’t specifically record in his notebook what was said in his briefing, because he wasn’t allowed to.
It might be a good idea to separate what al-Libi is reported to have said, when, and when this was told to Powell, versus when he was waterboarded and whether he revealed the recanted al Qaeda-Iraq connection under waterboarding or prior to that. I know the point of the torture was to produce such a connection, but it might not have been necessary to waterboard al-Libi to get him to say ’yes’ to the suggestion of the ’connection’. The assumption that al-Libi only provided the ’smoking gun’ connection after being waterboarded may be misleading.
I write this because others who were not waterboarded were tortured into agreeing to whatever was suggested, such as Binyam Mohammed confessing to being in cahoots with José Padilla and the ’dirty bomb’ plot, which even Paul Wolfowitz later admitted never existed.
So I’m just suggesting to make a time line (if possible) which separates out the waterboarding of al-Libi from whenever the products of his torture (in general) may have been revealed to Powell or anyone else.
I think you are right about Team B, and that would explain a lot. But things in the CIA did not begin with the Team A/Team B fiasco. The underlying split is between covert/special ops and the intel side of CIA, the latter being much weaker than the former.
I don’t think we can take what Wilkerson says without a heavy dose of salt. He is evidently the spokesperson for one governmental clique against another. Not that he doesn’t have some interesting things to say. But, how about this manifest piece of lying from the same Washington Note article by Wilkerson:
We should not be cherry-picking Wilkerson’s statements. There are plenty who would like to pin this all on Cheney. And why not, he’s guilty as hell. But the stink spreads much farther, into the rarified realms of the Pentagon, as well, also the FBI, and on into civil society (APA, universities, etc.). No one will come out of this clean, as the Democrats are going to have to deal with the Pelosi factor (I believe she is basically telling the truth, but that truth is damning enough, in that she followed the rules at a time when basic morality called for breaking the rules, a la Nuremberg.)
Look back pre-Team B era, to the world of MKULTRA, ONI research into sensory deprivation, KUBARK, School of the Americas, etc.
Wilkerson wants to expose and bring down the “secret cabal” (his words, not mine) of Cheney/Rumsfeld, operating outside regular government channels, and then manipulating same. BUT, he also wants to preserve the status quo and “normal” government/military functioning. He’s a reformer, of sorts, but doesn’t realize how much these “cabals” are incubated in the attitudes and crimes of the regular government/military functioning. For him, “torture” was the “cabal’s” EIT. All the other stuff, the current Army Field Manual, etc., is NOT torture, etc.
Invading Afghanistan, the first Iraq War, etc. This is the kind of world he wants to save from the maniacs (as he sees it). Most of all, he wants to keep us from realizing that the government is quite vulnerable to the action of cliques, acting in profound ways inside the government, and that the consequences of these actions are devastating, kills hundreds of thousands, if not millions, leads to torture, etc. Then we would see the system is not what it pretends to be, is quite unstable.
Spencer,
The way all of this information was obtained and disseminated is important but al Libi was by no means the only detainee who said there were some links between Saddam’s Iraq and al Qaeda. You also had Zubaydah, countless defectors from Saddam’s regime and other al Qaeda detainees.
As you know the evidence of a Saddam, al Qaeda relationship was extremely complicated and contradictory. Detainees usually said the two loathed each other but there were also too many detainees who said there was a relationship that included at least safehaven and funding and I’ve been writing about some of this at http://www.regimeofterror.com.
Of course none of this means you invade and occupy a country but the Saddam, al Qaeda argument is not as simple as “nothing to see here.”