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	<title>Comments on: CIA Responds To Obey: &#8216;These Are Notes, Memos, And Recollections, Not Transcripts And Recordings&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;George Tenet, left in place by the Bush Regime to gin up a war with Iraq.  I kind of think of George Tenet as being from the same country club as Tony Blair…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Tenet, left in place by the Bush Regime to gin up a war with Iraq.  I kind of think of George Tenet as being from the same country club as Tony Blair…</p>
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		<title>By: timbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 01:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The trial balloon…was it filled with helium?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trial balloon…was it filled with helium?</p>
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		<title>By: leftdcin72</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftdcin72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;George Tenet, Clinton appointee&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Tenet, Clinton appointee</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My impression of how the CIA briefed Congress on extraordinarily contentious issues under the ueber-political CheneyBush is at odds with the CIA’s claims.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before such a super secret agency like the CIA briefed Congress, I imagine it would have gone to great lengths to avoid any need to brief it.  Having failed at that, it carefully vetted who did the briefing, what they were allowed to say, to whom and when.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given the extra politicization of the bureaucracy under Cheney, this would all have been vetted with the White House.  At these briefings, agency hands would have taken notes, to verify that its planned presentation(s) went off, er, as planned, and to record unexpected hiccups, useful in &lt;strike&gt;plotting &lt;/strike&gt;preparing for subsequent briefings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The idea that the CIA casually recorded incomplete notes about briefing intentionally too few CongressCritters on how it tortured prisoners is as ludicrous as Roger Moore playing 007.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression of how the CIA briefed Congress on extraordinarily contentious issues under the ueber-political CheneyBush is at odds with the CIA’s claims.  </p>
<p>Before such a super secret agency like the CIA briefed Congress, I imagine it would have gone to great lengths to avoid any need to brief it.  Having failed at that, it carefully vetted who did the briefing, what they were allowed to say, to whom and when.  </p>
<p>Given the extra politicization of the bureaucracy under Cheney, this would all have been vetted with the White House.  At these briefings, agency hands would have taken notes, to verify that its planned presentation(s) went off, er, as planned, and to record unexpected hiccups, useful in <strike>plotting </strike>preparing for subsequent briefings.</p>
<p>The idea that the CIA casually recorded incomplete notes about briefing intentionally too few CongressCritters on how it tortured prisoners is as ludicrous as Roger Moore playing 007.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wish Speaker Pelosi would hoist Cheney with his own Petard by demanding a special prosecutor who would investigate torture no matter where it leads.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Speaker Pelosi would hoist Cheney with his own Petard by demanding a special prosecutor who would investigate torture no matter where it leads.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowsnapdragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowsnapdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why can’t we just get rid of Pelosi for being a rotten Speaker?  Who needs a manufactured scandal?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can’t we just get rid of Pelosi for being a rotten Speaker?  Who needs a manufactured scandal?</p>
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		<title>By: GregB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CIA, Continuously Ignorant Assholes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No wonder these stooges missed the fall of Russia and 9/11. They can’t even keep accurate notes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-G&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CIA, Continuously Ignorant Assholes.</p>
<p>No wonder these stooges missed the fall of Russia and 9/11. They can’t even keep accurate notes.</p>
<p>-G</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Ackerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Because the summary (as ptbridgeport surmised) is compiled in 2009 for distribution to Congress, as CIA has been saying, rather than being a contemporaneous document. They’re retrofitting the term, in other words.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the summary (as ptbridgeport surmised) is compiled in 2009 for distribution to Congress, as CIA has been saying, rather than being a contemporaneous document. They’re retrofitting the term, in other words.</p>
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		<title>By: peterboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To be precise—the they shoudl read:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The&lt;strong&gt; CIA gives&lt;/strong&gt; briefings and there are no complete record of it.&lt;br /&gt;
Then, that is only because they DO NOT WANT a record. They have the capacity and the skills to do that.&lt;br /&gt;
This is a spy agency after all, and their credo is deniability.&lt;br /&gt;
What could be more obvious.&lt;br /&gt;
If the CIA wanted a record of what was said, they would have one.&lt;br /&gt;
Obviously, the Congress members are restricted in recording super classified briefings.&lt;br /&gt;
what silliness!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be precise—the they shoudl read:</p>
<p>The<strong> CIA gives</strong> briefings and there are no complete record of it.<br />
Then, that is only because they DO NOT WANT a record. They have the capacity and the skills to do that.<br />
This is a spy agency after all, and their credo is deniability.<br />
What could be more obvious.<br />
If the CIA wanted a record of what was said, they would have one.<br />
Obviously, the Congress members are restricted in recording super classified briefings.<br />
what silliness!</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Still two years’ worth of contemporaneity at issue, though; if the acronym EIT wasn’t in use until 2004, why would 2002 briefing summaries show EIT as a topic?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still two years’ worth of contemporaneity at issue, though; if the acronym EIT wasn’t in use until 2004, why would 2002 briefing summaries show EIT as a topic?</p>
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