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		<title>By: hackworth1</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/05/20/a-new-cia-log-of-torture-communications/#comment-10179</link>
		<dc:creator>hackworth1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;….just WTF was Fredo doing authorizing this CIA torture as White House Counsel?
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&lt;p&gt;The simple answer is that AlbearTOE was grooming himself to become Atty General by doing Bush’s dirty work (as he had done for years back in Texas). Jackass Pious Republican as he was, Eagle Sore Ashcroft was still not willing to play 24/7 Bushball. As we know, AlbearTOE was.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>….just WTF was Fredo doing authorizing this CIA torture as White House Counsel?
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<p>The simple answer is that AlbearTOE was grooming himself to become Atty General by doing Bush’s dirty work (as he had done for years back in Texas). Jackass Pious Republican as he was, Eagle Sore Ashcroft was still not willing to play 24/7 Bushball. As we know, AlbearTOE was.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/05/20/a-new-cia-log-of-torture-communications/#comment-10170</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Steve Kleinman, an Air Force Reserve colonel and a trained interrogator affiliated with the military office that oversees the SERE program, told me last week that the real linchpins here aren’t Mitchell and his SERE colleague, Bruce Jessen, but the senior CIA officials who gave them contracts in late 2001 and “brought [them] in with eyes wide open, to run an interrogation program.” These logs give Kleinman more support for that proposition.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;spence, you MUST look into “team b”, a faction of the CIA brought in by Rumsfeld/Cheney (Cheney was the underling) way back when Nixon left office in shame&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;both were members of Nixon’s staff however when ford took over they set in motion a series of events to undermine Nixon’s treaty of détente&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0213-28.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;check out important points&lt;/a&gt; from tom hartmann&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this team created false information, information the actual analysts from the CIA called ridiculous&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe they are the “Cheney leave behinds” that are responsible for the current “CIA issues”, in my mind almost certainly created by “team b” and not the professionals&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Steve Kleinman, an Air Force Reserve colonel and a trained interrogator affiliated with the military office that oversees the SERE program, told me last week that the real linchpins here aren’t Mitchell and his SERE colleague, Bruce Jessen, but the senior CIA officials who gave them contracts in late 2001 and “brought [them] in with eyes wide open, to run an interrogation program.” These logs give Kleinman more support for that proposition.</p>
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<p>spence, you MUST look into “team b”, a faction of the CIA brought in by Rumsfeld/Cheney (Cheney was the underling) way back when Nixon left office in shame</p>
<p>both were members of Nixon’s staff however when ford took over they set in motion a series of events to undermine Nixon’s treaty of détente</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0213-28.htm" rel="nofollow">check out important points</a> from tom hartmann</p>
<p>this team created false information, information the actual analysts from the CIA called ridiculous</p>
<p>I believe they are the “Cheney leave behinds” that are responsible for the current “CIA issues”, in my mind almost certainly created by “team b” and not the professionals</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/05/20/a-new-cia-log-of-torture-communications/#comment-10168</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A most excellent set of fingerprints you have there Spencer! *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, if folks like the Attorney General were in the loop, just WTF was Fredo doing authorizing this CIA torture as White House Counsel?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or was AG Ashcroft deliberately bailing, knowing full well that someday the chickens would come home to roost?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shorter AG Ashcroft: &lt;i&gt;“Not my fookin’ fingerprints! No fookin’ way!”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A most excellent set of fingerprints you have there Spencer! *g*</p>
<p>So, if folks like the Attorney General were in the loop, just WTF was Fredo doing authorizing this CIA torture as White House Counsel?</p>
<p>Or was AG Ashcroft deliberately bailing, knowing full well that someday the chickens would come home to roost?</p>
<p>Shorter AG Ashcroft: <i>“Not my fookin’ fingerprints! No fookin’ way!”</i></p>
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		<title>By: Styve</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/05/20/a-new-cia-log-of-torture-communications/#comment-10167</link>
		<dc:creator>Styve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is from a 12/23/08 post by Wayne Madsen on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.waynemadsenreport.com,&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.waynemadsenreport.com,&lt;/a&gt; entitled, “Connell’s high-tech network active against Gore in 2000″.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you cannot access on the site, you could email &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com.&lt;/a&gt;  I have brought this up before on FDL, but no one seems to believe it.  There’s so much incredible stuff these “evil-doers” have dredged up…one has to just not be afraid of the facts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is from a 12/23/08 post by Wayne Madsen on <a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com," rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.waynemadsenreport.com</a>, entitled, “Connell’s high-tech network active against Gore in 2000″.</p>
<p>If you cannot access on the site, you could email <a href="mailto:wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="mailto:wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com">wmreditor@waynemadsenreport.com</a>.  I have brought this up before on FDL, but no one seems to believe it.  There’s so much incredible stuff these “evil-doers” have dredged up…one has to just not be afraid of the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Ackerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Page 3 of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://intelligence.senate.gov/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SSCI torture narrative&lt;/a&gt;. In April 2002 “attorneys from the CIA’s Office of General Counsel began discussions with the Legal Adviser to the National Security Council and OLC concerning the CIA’s proposed interrogation plan for Abu Zubaydah and legal restrictions on that interrogation. CIA records indicate that the Legal Adviser to the National Security Council briefed the National Security Adviser, Deputy National Security Adviser, &lt;strong&gt;and Counsel to the President&lt;/strong&gt;, as well as the Attorney General and the head of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page 3 of the <a href="http://intelligence.senate.gov/index.html" rel="nofollow">SSCI torture narrative</a>. In April 2002 “attorneys from the CIA’s Office of General Counsel began discussions with the Legal Adviser to the National Security Council and OLC concerning the CIA’s proposed interrogation plan for Abu Zubaydah and legal restrictions on that interrogation. CIA records indicate that the Legal Adviser to the National Security Council briefed the National Security Adviser, Deputy National Security Adviser, <strong>and Counsel to the President</strong>, as well as the Attorney General and the head of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice.”</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/05/20/a-new-cia-log-of-torture-communications/#comment-10164</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;None hatsoever!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None hatsoever!</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
		<link>http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/05/20/a-new-cia-log-of-torture-communications/#comment-10162</link>
		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spencer, I want to compliment both you and EW for jumping on this latest find!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now having said that, I found this &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=7560666&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ABC News report&lt;/a&gt;, dated May 12, 2009 that had already identified Fredo as the source of the “approvals” for Abu Zubaydah’s intial torture regime:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;As President Bush’s top lawyer, Alberto Gonzales pressed counterterror officials to use brutal interrogation techniques on terror suspect Abu Zubaydah in 2002, even when those techniques hindered Zubaydah’s cooperation, a former FBI agent who was present is expected to testify Wednesday before Congress…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…”We’re the United States, we don’t do this,” Soufan is said to have told the CIA officers. According to the former operative, the CIA officer told Soufan, “It’s coming from Alberto Gonzales.” Gonzales was then White House counsel to President George W. Bush. Later, he would become Attorney General…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer, I want to compliment both you and EW for jumping on this latest find!</p>
<p>Now having said that, I found this <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=7560666&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">ABC News report</a>, dated May 12, 2009 that had already identified Fredo as the source of the “approvals” for Abu Zubaydah’s intial torture regime:</p>
<blockquote><p>As President Bush’s top lawyer, Alberto Gonzales pressed counterterror officials to use brutal interrogation techniques on terror suspect Abu Zubaydah in 2002, even when those techniques hindered Zubaydah’s cooperation, a former FBI agent who was present is expected to testify Wednesday before Congress…</p>
<p>…”We’re the United States, we don’t do this,” Soufan is said to have told the CIA officers. According to the former operative, the CIA officer told Soufan, “It’s coming from Alberto Gonzales.” Gonzales was then White House counsel to President George W. Bush. Later, he would become Attorney General…</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
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		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know you’re gone, but just lemon pepper.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s always nice when we can chat.  Too.  And, also.  *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you’re gone, but just lemon pepper.<br />
It’s always nice when we can chat.  Too.  And, also.  *g*</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Ackerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that about runs the gamut.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that about runs the gamut.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*G* &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m outta here, time to tend to home stuff . . . &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pleasure chattin with ya, and reading all the others on this thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Man, we gotta keep the pressure on the PTB, or we won’t get any change at all . . . . &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rawhk On Pups . . *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*G* </p>
<p>I’m outta here, time to tend to home stuff . . . </p>
<p>Pleasure chattin with ya, and reading all the others on this thread.</p>
<p>Man, we gotta keep the pressure on the PTB, or we won’t get any change at all . . . . </p>
<p>Rawhk On Pups . . *G*</p>
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