Michael Goldfarb writes:
Is it possible that the Iraqi election experience had something to do with Iranian expectations of an election? If critics of the war can for just a moment move beyond their own deeply held opinions about the invasion of Iraq — that this was a war of choice fought on false premises to lower gas prices or whatever — and examine the effect of that war on the region as a whole, they might see a connection to the current turmoil in Iran. After all, one of the intellectual arguments in favor of overthrowing Saddam Hussein was, in the words of Dick Cheney, to place "a democracy in the heart of the Middle East, a nation that will be a positive force in influencing the world around it in the future.”
I think a case can be made that Barack Obama’s election as president has also raised expectations of the democratic process in countries around the world. It is certainly possible that we are seeing an Obama effect in Iran as young people there look to replicate the excitement and enthusiasm of young people here during last year’s election. But any honest assessment of events in Iran would also have to consider the effect of having a functioning democracy right next door — a democracy that millions of Iranians have seen for themselves as they make religious pilgrimages and conduct business in Iraq. Iran has had a tremendous influence on Iraq these last few years, usually to the detriment of peace and security there. Perhaps the current protests in Iran are evidence that influence doesn’t just cross the border in one direction.
I’ll play ball. But the evidence presented for the proposition that Iraq’s nascent democracy (let’s be charitable) influenced what’s happening in Iran is that (a) there’s a nascent democracy in Iraq, (b) Iran is next to Iraq, (c) Iranians make "religious pilgrimages and conduct business" in Iraq and (d) there’s something amazing and hopeful going on in Iran. By contrast, no Iranian on the #IranElection hashtag, for instance, has mentioned Iraq as an inspiration for the demonstrations, nor has any leader of the opposition cited their Iraqi neighbors as a model or a source of guidance. Instead, they talk about internal, domestic provocations provided by Ahmadinejad and the clerical regime. If we’re going to go by, say, business ties, Iran’s main trading partners are China, India, Germany, South Korea, France, Russia and Italy. Which of those countries inspired the Iranian protests we’re seeing now?
If there’s additional evidence for believing that Iraq’s nascent democracy is influencing the Iranian opposition, I’d consider it, but assertion isn’t a compelling argument. It’s probably best to look to what the Iranian opposition is actually saying if we’re to understand it.
Crossposted to The Streak.
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Indeed.
And for that matter, one of the reasons that there was such shock and outrage at the leadership’s handling of the election was that, within certain parameters, Iran WAS a functioning democracy. And prior to whatever happened there in the last week, a case could be made that the average Iranian had effectively the same level of individual freedom as the average Iraqi, with a greater opportunity to make a living and survive ’til dinner.
Somehow I don’t think anybody in the region looks at what has become of Iraq and says “wow, that’s the model for a nation I want to live in”…
mikey
Obama’s election has as much to do with Iranian expectations in their election as Iraq’s struggling ‘democracry’. I don’t think there is a whole lot of difference between the governments of Iran and Iraq. Iran has a larger educated class and a higher standard of living. Despite it being a theocracy, news of the west is widely available, especially to those educated in electronic media. Iraq may eventually evolve into a theocracy, anyway. There does not seem to be much envy in Iran at Iraq’s new government. But there does seem to be much enthusiasm for Obama, especially among the youth. That’s where change begins and grows. Maybe even a revolution of sorts.
Right. “Oh geez, I wish we were an utter basket case like Iraq!” No.
A lot of Iranian young people don’t remember the revolution, but i’ll hazard that quite a few more do remember parts of the cataclysmic war with their neighbor. Many probably lost parents to it. So i doubt they have developed very warm feelings toward Iraq by now. Add to that the suffering they saw Iraqis go through before anything like democracy even arguably arose there. The notion that Iranians are motivated by a desire to experience what their benighted cousins to the west have frankly deserves derision and mockery. You should have gone with what I assume is your standard reaction to Michael Golfarb when he is not begging to be taken seriously.
What’s funny is the way he has to grovel for us to even recollect that chestnut of a crackpot geopolitical fantasy. I wish him well.