Comments on: Moussavi’s Message Of Reform

By: marchan1940

marchan1940 — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:19:07 +0000

Fasctinating. Thanks for all the info on a world I know not at all, but am fascinated by the actions in process.

Blessings to all,

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:34:04 +0000

I guess that I’m a little slow here if “everybody knows” that Moussavi is backed by money and support from America.
Can you tell where to find the info?

By: tejanarusa

tejanarusa — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:45:08 +0000

Teddy! spit take!
I should know better than to drink while reading FDL, of course, no matter how serious the subject.

By: DrZen

DrZen — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:43:28 +0000

These are “reformists” in the same way George Bush is a reformist, and you should be careful what you wish for. When people are considering Rafsanjani a liberal, you know that their misunderstanding of Iran is off the dial.

And Spencer, Moussavi has to use this language because Iran is fundamentally Islamic! Just because your media focuses on the upper middle class of Northern Tehran does not mean that Iran as a nation is basically a huge middle class yearning to be all secular, wear jeans, smoke dope and fuck in the streets. Everyone knows he is backed by money and support from America and its allies. He has to distance himself from any suggestion that he wants to bring Iran into the Western orbit, because, believe it or not, that’s not a popular idea in Iran, whatever the rich say.

By: Twain

Twain — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:36:23 +0000

The US has no business getting involved in this Iranian situation at all. This is an internal affair and could very well erupt into a civil war – and we know how well that works out for us when we intervene. And these nuts calling for us to attack them are crazy – attack who, where, and what for? Those demanding “freedom” (in their own definition) may not win this time but the powers-that-be are not going to be able to put this genie back in the bottle.

By: CasualObserver

CasualObserver — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:28:09 +0000

well said. In my view, this is just another example of jihad, which can be anywhere in scope from a single individual to trans-national. His statement gives both focus and context to the current jihad.

By: Teddy Partridge

Teddy Partridge — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:25:36 +0000

We should all listen more closely to President McCain’s reasoned analysis.

By: tejanarusa

tejanarusa — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:23:00 +0000

“that the Iranians are talking about making the Islamic Republic more responsive to their needs - but so were the Americans, French, and Russians. Oh, sure, there were some anti-monarchists among the rabble rousers, but for the most part people weren’t so much anti the government as they were wanting a more responsive government.”

Great point. Very few of the founding fathers of the U.S. anticipated complete separation from the “mother country.”
There is no telling where this can go.
All we can really do is sit back and watch. It’s up to the Iranian people.
Of course, we should shut up someof our own idiots like McCain and others pushing for “tougher” response. Ignoramuses.
But, I digress. It’s scary and exciting to watch; I wish them well (the Iranian people, I mean).

By: BCMT

BCMT — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:58:53 +0000

From a historical view, this is the way revolutions happen. People make demands on their government which seem to them to be eminently reasonable and the government just says no. Then it escalates until it becomes clear to the people that the government will never respond to them, that they must separate from it. See also: American Revolution, French Revolution, Russian Revolution. Spencer, you’re right that the Iranians are talking about making the Islamic Republic more responsive to their needs – but so were the Americans, French, and Russians. Oh, sure, there were some anti-monarchists among the rabble rousers, but for the most part people weren’t so much anti the government as they were wanting a more responsive government. Just hope they can do it with as little violence as possible and with little outside meddling. Much more difficult to do in this age of instant communication.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:58:37 +0000

Someone else is optimistic in this interview. He got arrested, but see fatwa from Saanei.

http://www.aawsat.com/english/.....8;id=17147