Comments on: You Know What CIA Has Been Doing? From The Skies? For Years? Legally? http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/ Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:59:36 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MikeD http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11515 MikeD Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:58:57 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11515 <p><em>Youngblood</em>, fair enough. Also, it’s an obvious potential difference between the examples that drone strikes are limited to countries we’re at war in, plus one more whose sovereignty we have mercilessly and serially compromised. This program on the other hand — and here is one question that you’re right remains outstanding — it seems may have been envisioned to operate in allied countries without their knowledge or consent. But then, it didn’t. So it remains just an oversight story as far as I can tell.</p> Youngblood, fair enough. Also, it’s an obvious potential difference between the examples that drone strikes are limited to countries we’re at war in, plus one more whose sovereignty we have mercilessly and serially compromised. This program on the other hand — and here is one question that you’re right remains outstanding — it seems may have been envisioned to operate in allied countries without their knowledge or consent. But then, it didn’t. So it remains just an oversight story as far as I can tell.

]]> By: Endymion http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11510 Endymion Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:26:25 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11510 <p>So you’re saying that this was hidden because it was so embarrassingly, shockingly derivative?</p> So you’re saying that this was hidden because it was so embarrassingly, shockingly derivative?

]]> By: KC Bill 13 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11504 KC Bill 13 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:44:57 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11504 <p>I am still waiting for the “rest of the story” to drop. This is just distraction so far, they cannot keep a lid on this, it is just spin leakage so far, keep us distracted, and chasing our tails.</p> <p>Don’t be fooled!</p> I am still waiting for the “rest of the story” to drop. This is just distraction so far, they cannot keep a lid on this, it is just spin leakage so far, keep us distracted, and chasing our tails.

Don’t be fooled!

]]> By: Spencer Ackerman http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11501 Spencer Ackerman Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:44:50 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11501 <p>Dude, not Bourne. <em>Youngblood</em>.</p> Dude, not Bourne. Youngblood.

]]> By: Spencer Ackerman http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11500 Spencer Ackerman Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:44:26 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11500 <p>Just summarizing the <em>NYT</em> piece buddy. There is surely much much more to the story. None of these pieces ought to be taken as comprehensive. We’re all trying to mine to the core and this story is tough.</p> Just summarizing the NYT piece buddy. There is surely much much more to the story. None of these pieces ought to be taken as comprehensive. We’re all trying to mine to the core and this story is tough.

]]> By: MikeD http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11497 MikeD Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:53:58 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11497 <p>Someone above said: “This targeted assassination stuff is troubling.” Apparently so did Gerald Ford. But it seems to me facts on the ground (more precisely, in the air) have changed. We’re now routinely killing scores of innocent civilians using the most targeted killing tools at our disposal <i>short of going down on the ground and doing the dirty work with our own two hands</i>, as the song goes. What’s the problem with a little targeting?</p> <p>Anyway, the thing apparently never went past training. Is anyone else thinking what I am: Bourne was real, in their minds at least?</p> Someone above said: “This targeted assassination stuff is troubling.” Apparently so did Gerald Ford. But it seems to me facts on the ground (more precisely, in the air) have changed. We’re now routinely killing scores of innocent civilians using the most targeted killing tools at our disposal short of going down on the ground and doing the dirty work with our own two hands, as the song goes. What’s the problem with a little targeting?

Anyway, the thing apparently never went past training. Is anyone else thinking what I am: Bourne was real, in their minds at least?

]]> By: JGabriel http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11496 JGabriel Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:08:30 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11496 <p>Spencer Ackerman:<br /></p><blockquote>It was a vague and unworkable plan for overseas, not domestic, hit squads for al-Qaeda; and it continued only in theory to find an alternative to the drone strikes that my piece was about. Basically the Bush administration wanted to create superheroes.</blockquote> <p>Spencer, that still doesn’t sound like anything that would cause Congressional jaws to drop, much less shock those on the Intelligence Committees. </p> <p>.</p> Spencer Ackerman:

It was a vague and unworkable plan for overseas, not domestic, hit squads for al-Qaeda; and it continued only in theory to find an alternative to the drone strikes that my piece was about. Basically the Bush administration wanted to create superheroes.

Spencer, that still doesn’t sound like anything that would cause Congressional jaws to drop, much less shock those on the Intelligence Committees.

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]]> By: DeanOR http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11493 DeanOR Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:05:19 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11493 <p>History suggests that we may be more often right than wrong by being “paranoid” about the spies and special ops.</p> History suggests that we may be more often right than wrong by being “paranoid” about the spies and special ops.

]]> By: DeanOR http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11491 DeanOR Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:54:17 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11491 <p>“It’s very, very easy to see how an assassinations squad let loose on the streets of Milan or Hamburg or rural Turkey or the Parisian suburbs or wherever could easily spiral out of control, in all manner of directions.”<br /> Or in Riyadh or Los Angeles. They don’t call it the “Global” war on terror for nothing.</p> “It’s very, very easy to see how an assassinations squad let loose on the streets of Milan or Hamburg or rural Turkey or the Parisian suburbs or wherever could easily spiral out of control, in all manner of directions.”
Or in Riyadh or Los Angeles. They don’t call it the “Global” war on terror for nothing.

]]> By: Justinajustice http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11489 Justinajustice Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:43:32 +0000 http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/07/13/you-know-what-cia-has-been-doing-from-the-skies-for-years-legally/#comment-11489 <p>Paragraph 2 should read “probable cause” (not probably cause).</p> Paragraph 2 should read “probable cause” (not probably cause).

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