Comments on: Turn off the lights, for now everything just seems so right

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:49:42 +0000

only if a half of a peanut butter and horseshit sandwich is to your taste, Git.

By: Gitcheegumee

Gitcheegumee — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:59:20 +0000

Paul Craig Roberts: Pirates of the Mediterranean

Jul 1, 2009 … Pirates of the Mediterranean. By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS. On June 30, the government of Israel committed an act of piracy when the Israeli Navy …
www.counterpunch.org/roberts07012009.html - Cached - Similar

This is an excellent piece that provides some intelligent food for thought.

By: DLoerke

DLoerke — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:54:12 +0000

Modern day anti-Semitism is a wholly different disease. One can accept the DNA variance of the Jewish inhabitants of Greater Israel without challenging their right to be there and defeat their enemies. I still believe that if you change the United States’ historical support for its alliance with Israel there are sinister motives. (e.g., Pat Buchanan, Rahm Ehmanuel, etc.) Moshe Dayan was a great general but Bibi Netanyahu is a better stragic thinker. The rest is an example of the same Buchanan spirit…there are self hating Jews, especially on the NY Times. And Ben-Gurion is right. Israel should be restored to the borders of the Davidic Kingdom.

By: shekissesfrogs

shekissesfrogs — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:08:43 +0000

Congratulations delurker, it sounds like you’ve completed your hasbara history books, and inculcated hatred of the “other” just as children of KKK parents have. Participating on this site allows us to the opportunity stop being someone’s useful idiot.

Reducing the argument to “if someone doesn’t support Israel, it’s anti-semitic” is just to ridiculous even deal with. Time to grow up.

What we all have in common is that our governments lie to us. The blogs and bloggers on this site are especially good at researching and challenging “politically correct” half-truths, lies, propaganda, and platitudes.
Reducing the struggle to Israel vs. (fill in here), Conservative vs. Liberal etc, embracing jingoism, racist stereotypes, and adopting a narrative that you haven’t critically examined doesn’t advance the cause for truth, humanity, or peace.

According to Rabin and Dayan,
Syria did not attack Israel when Israel occupied the Golan. At the urging of settlers that wanted the land, Israel provoked them continuously until they retaliated. This is Israel’s Modus Operandi.If the provocations do not produce results then false flag operators are sent in.

http://www.cactus48.com/1967war.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05…..gewanted=1
http://intelligencenews.wordpr…..alysis009/

By: Gitcheegumee

Gitcheegumee — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:55:40 +0000

@50

Al Lo Davar

By: DLoerke

DLoerke — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:46:15 +0000

Gitcheegumee@48. Thanks for extremely interesting studies. Of course since the return from the Diaspora there’s no question that there would be strains largely Eastern European and from the major trade routes of the time. And there was some intermarriage (probably more than the Biblican writers admit) of intermmariage between the Israelite and Canaanite population. Heck, the Story of Ruth is acknowledged fiction and the Moabites really are Jordanians, but so was Herod for that matter. It’s interesting, but no more illuminating than the genetic population of America. We’re a melting pot. in the ancient world, one reason for the constant wars was that the so-called Coast Road built by Rome in Biblican times paralleled the old trade routes.

By: DLoerke

DLoerke — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:41:05 +0000

I do not doubt Jesus was a Palestinian Jew. And Jesus believed in an independent Israel a la the Maccabean independence which was of recent historical memory (since it was the Jewish rulers who threw in with the Romans to dislodge the Greeks). As someone interested in a free and independent Israel, whether or not their descendents are dying, the Jewish State with its free and undivided capital in Jerusalem is what is independent. Every Jew prays, “Next Year in Jerusalem”. Unlike for the Muslims (for whom Mecca is the center of the religion), the heart of Jew is Jerusalem. It’s why Jews tend to be great archaeologists.

By: Gitcheegumee

Gitcheegumee — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:06:44 +0000

@45

This may be of especial interest to you:

Jewish Genetics - DNA, genes, Jews, AshkenaziThis section is the most comprehensive summary of Jewish genetic data. In recent years, advances in genetic technology and the broadening in scope of …
www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html - Cached - Similar

Jewish Genetics, Part 2: Cohens and Levites (kohen, cohen, levite DNA)In a similar way, there is no Jewish haplotype and genetics cannot ‘prove’ whether someone is a Jew; that is a matter for religious authorities. …
www.khazaria.com/genetics/abst.....evite.html - Cached - Similar

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By: Gitcheegumee

Gitcheegumee — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:56:14 +0000

Thanks for your feedback.

I’ve been thinking aboutGalilee,Bethlehem and Judea.
All locations associated with the birth and life of Jesus Christ.

Wouldn’t that have made Jesus Christ a Palestinian?

And logically,would not blood descendants of his be living and possibly dying in Palestine today?

By: shootthatarrow

shootthatarrow — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:51:29 +0000

Was a nice Sunday afternoon FDL thread while it lasted. Enjoy visiting/following FDL. This was an interesting comments thread.

Everyone get to say what they wanted? Think so. Good.

Thanks FDL for hosting and thanks to other FDL guests who left comments on this thread. I hope my comments were worthy of your reading time. Don’t usually engage this much on any one FDL thread. Not wondering why either.

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