Another good day on this blog.

You’re looking at it in altogether a too adult fashion.

In the neocon mindset, “THEY’RE CALLING US NAMES” is grounds for airstrikes, if not an invasion.

It’s neither about outcomes nor is it about diplomacy. It’s measured in the black and white terms of an elementary school blacktop – who’s afraid of whom, and who therefore is on the “winning” team and who is on the “losing” team.

And these win/lose outcomes are measured by force and intimidation, not by anything more nuanced than that.

When your worldview was formed by the experience of being unable to protect yourself from bullies, all you ever want to be is a bully. You learned the exercise and projection of power from kids who were afraid of books and intimidated by athletics. Viewed through this lens, all actions that don’t utilize massive force and take many lives are weak, and everything that leads towards peace is equated with weakness….

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I wonder if John Bolton were doing some hard time in a North Korean labor camp, starving, freezing and sick, if he might feel differently.

I think he would.

DaPug: if there’s one thing that’s been consistent about John Bolton’s opinions, it’s that he’s always been willing to fight to someone else’s death to preserve his liberties and social standing.

Gore’s CurrenTV (the reporters’ employer) had this hilarious headline item up today:

http://current.com/items/90608…..#responses

“Fox News complains about current-TV reporters’ release: Fox News sucks”

The linked broadcast has Hannity and Peroxide reciting Bolton’s concern trolling, hinting that Gore may have orchestrated this from the start – arranging to get the reporters’ captured, and hinting that this whole thing is really about diverting attention away from healthcare.

This is bordering on criminal. It’s completely past the realm of incompetence.

This is not news, no analysis, not entertainment. It is disorderly conduct.

Where is Sgt Crowley when we need to keep the peace?

Jon Stewart asked, “What nation wouldn’t you bomb?”

Bolton guffawing, stated that he believes that the only nation that should have nuclear weapons is his nation, the USA.

Jon Stewart let that stupid remark stand as the epilogue to the interview.

Any interview with Bolton is theater. All this shit is about money. I don’t think Bolton believes half the shit he says. He just knows where his bread is buttered.

I’m searching for an actual harm to U.S. interests here and I just can’t find it.

Limpy Limbaugh’s not on the air yet. I’m sure he was up all night (with chemical help, of course) searching for the negative spin on this. He’ll be bloviationg for three hours today, starting soon.

John Bolton is a patriot like John McCain. Better rot in prison than cause his country dishonor. Who knows what we gave to North Korea? More leeway to make nukes to kill people in Alaska? While I know FDL folks don’t like Sarah Palin, do you really want to arm the North Koreans to do the deed? I think there may be progressives in Alaska somewhere.

Okay, that Looney Toons segment might be the best allegory EVER for Republicans.

Ha! Great satire there.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Bolton and the neocons have had zero concern over Russia’s loose nukes. And even less concern over Russia’s unemployed nookyular scientists.

Presumably, some of these scientists could be had for a price. I know there’s yellowcake in Niger.

“John, John John, you just make me tired all over. It’s bad enough to have to kill a man, but to listen to him talk first.. ” (loosely paraphrased from “Support your local Sheriff”)

I’m interpreting #9 as snark, not trolling.

That is most jumbled comment I’ve ever seen. North Korea is going to hit Alaska and we like that because we don’t like Palin? Have some more coffee.

Sadly, that would be a misinterpretation.

Of course Bolton would rather they die than have Clinton “appease” right?
How do these people live with themselves or sleep at night?

Bush’s “bring it on” diplomacy would have worked better how?

Bolton’s halcyon days at Plato’s retreat are recreated in which third world countries?

remember, Bolton was actually quoted as saying, of the US/Israeli strike on Iran, for which he openly advocates:

“Prudent hedging by oil traders and consuming countries would minimize any price spike.”

…and, needless to say, make money for ‘em. He has a plan! He wants Wall Street derivatives to be used as a weapon of war.

If a man keeps his 1970’s era mustache forever, will it eventually come back in style?

Worked for Stalin’s 1900 era mustache.

Two good-looking Asian reporters and Bill Clinton walk into a bar…

North Korea nukes Alaska…for what strategic gain or advantage? What purpose of the State? What does it gain? Absolutely nothing except certain nuclear death, as popular will would force the President to similarly retaliate. China wants a nuclear war on its border between a client state and its biggest trading partner? Not hardly. North Korea is applying the lesson of Iraq, where one gets invaded if he doesn’t have a nuclear capability.

C’mon, you can do better than that.

Perhaps Bolton is emulating (channeling?) Stalin.

The Huffington Post shames itself with this banner headline:
Bill Upstages Hillary …Once Again”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Chomsky has a bit about that in “Hegemony Or Survival”.

The only nations that have been safe thusfar from American military aggression are those with nukes.

America only attacks weak and defenseless states.

John Bolton = Yosemite Sam! Hits the nail on the head.

That is low brow. Journalism by the least common denominator.

I am talking about taking out North Korea’s nukes. We need to do that. They are threat CURRENTLY to Alaska and the periphery of the Hawaiian chain, as well as to Japan and China. We should not be rewarding the Norks for thumbing their nose at the international community. Even Hillary Clinton called them spoiled children. Spoiled children with nukes are dangerous. They need to be disarmed.

John Bolton sure seemed to have no problem when the Reagan Administration launched it’s initiative to secretly negotiate with terrorists. Bolton worked for Ed Meese, then Atty. Gen. Bolton was put in charge of making sure that the DOJ complied with Congressional Committee Requests for documents. Problem was that Bolton kept stone-walling, particularly about Iran-Contra…he kept “misplacing” documents, or would make statements like, “we didn’t undertake a search for those documents because they are up for review, they should be available soon”.

Spoiled children with nukes are dangerous. They need to be disarmed.

We seem to have survived George W. Bush and John Bolton OK.

Getting them seems to be so urgent, but when you actually have them you remember that you’re not the only one who can use them. Even Saddam Hussein finally decided they weren’t worth the bother.

Of course, of you have nukes you can find other uses for them, particularly if you need to raise some cash.
You can sell labor and technology to all sorts of other savory folk, can’t you?

And then the monkey is on their back.

And those savory folk might not always be your BFFs

Saddam had them. He just hid them in Syria.

Amusing to compare the critic with the former president. I looked at Bolton’s Wikipedia page and saw that it had paragraph after paragraph on his troubles getting confirmed (He was given a recess appointment as UN Ambassador and hung on for the legal maximum of a year and a half before he needed Senate confirmation to stay on any longer) and saw that it had a teeny-tiny short little section on what he accomplished in that position (Essentially, he bitched about a few things). Interestingly, it didn’t include the part where Dubya concluded just before leaving office that appointing Bolton was a huge waste of time, effort and political capital.
Sheds an interesting light on the traditional media’s constant need to “balance” their commentary. Yeah, right, okay, a two-term president vs a complete flop of a “diplomat.” Real equal antagonists there.

… pretty soon, ev’rybody’s got one.

To not understand the angle that Bolton is coming from is to not be familiar with the PNAC group who has roots back into the Nixon administration. During the Reagan administration,Reagan would refer to Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton and the to become PNAC group as the crazies in the basement. These were the guys that planed to have perpetual warfare for the U.S. so as to generate a perpetual stream of income for the military industrial complex. When Clinton cut military spending, these guys interests were threatened and they formed the PNAC group in 97. The names that you will find in this group is interesting in that any body that had to do with the military or the state department in G.W.Bush’s administration came from this group. To understand PNAC, their consideration in the the cost in lives or diplomacy is not a consideration. The only important objective is to have control of the U.S. tax revenue stream. To gain clarity as to what the reasons for what happens in the news, go to the website and read about “Rebuilding Americas Defenses. http://www.newamericancentury.org/

I recall how uncharacteristically nervous Reagan was when he was doing his major address on the development of the star wars project. And then when G.W.Bush was talking provocatively about publicly saying that this is a new kind of crusade…. more than once. According to these guys, there is no money to be made in peace.

It’s not that there’s no money in peace. It’s that the only peace is achieved through victory. It is always me and mine over thee and thine.

I should note that the vice presidency was stacked with PNAC members. Remember that Cheney was given the task of selecting the running mate for G.W.Bush and he selected himself. As for the news medias connection to this, William Kristal is the editor of The Weekly Standard that is owned by Murdock.

If, in your opinion, Bolton’s only in it for the money, is there evidence that he has a lot of it derived from his support for the M-I complex?

Without reading into PNAC its hard to understand that peace and victory are not the objective of the rethugs. In their Rebuilding Americas Defenses sheet they clearly state that given the limited resources of the tax revenue stream, every dollar that is allocated to a social program, that dollar is in direct competition with defense spending. And that goes a long way to explain why there is conservative backlash on a public health option and how they can stack the media to brainwash us.

His career depended on affiliation to that group.

I recall how Paul Wolfiwitcz was sent to Iraq to build the government. What he did was go in and fire all the members of the Bath party, which was essentially everybody. They also cut loose the Iraqi army. The anarchy that ensued turns out to be incredibly profitable for Hallburton, Blackwater and all of their preferred contractors. He then graduated to the World Bank. Where he was tossed out for screwing on the banks dime.

That story just emphasizes the difference between the liberal and the conservative philosophy on diplomacy. The liberal philosophy is to have a government that actually serves the interests of the people who pay those taxes and the conservatives feel that it is their interests that should be protected at all costs.

That’s meaningless in supporting your contention.Nothing in having a career points to insincerity rather than believing in hegemony. When you say that he’s in it for money, you need to show the big bag of money.

Politicians, weather elected or appointed, to avoid the question of ethics, will receive their “big bag of money” after they have held there position. My contention is not how John Bolton would profit from any specific deed but rather how that group as a whole will use their position with the government to allow the industry to become larger and more powerful than the government. It is important to note who the players are in that group.

I am not baffled by Boltons stand on the release of the journalists. If we develop diplomatic ties with the “
axis of evil” or any other country that they can stir up hysteria over, then tax dollars will be shifted to social programs. Clearly spelled out in their plan for American defenses.

It was Eisenhower that gave a parting remark that we should beware of the military industrial complex.

The phrase “Fox News sucks” was not part of the headline/banner. It wasn’t exactly inconspicuous either.