Time for some serious Congressional hearings.
The New York Times reports that Hamid Karzai’s brother, who has long been suspected of running a drug ring in southern Afghanistan — I mean, I asked Said Jawad, the Afghan ambassador to the U.S., about Ahmed Wali Karzai’s ties to opium trade in 2007 for TPM — is actually on the CIA payroll. That’s bad enough. But, I mean– screw it, here’s part of what I wrote for the Washington Independent about the implications of this:
At this point, everything about the U.S. policy toward the Afghan drug trade — from tolerance to eradication during the Bush administration to an evolving approach to cultivating alternatives — now ought to be questioned. As in questioned in open congressional session. CIA money funds a politically connected drug dealer. Opium funds the Taliban. We are in Afghanistan to fight the Taliban. How much CIA money has indirectly funded the Taliban?
And that’s just scratching the surface of speculation that Congress needs to deal with. What’s the connection, if any, between U.S. counternarcotics policy in southern Afghanistan and the CIA/Ahmed Wali Karzai relationship? The Times notes that a variety of counternarcotics officials have “repeatedly expressed frustration over the unwillingness of senior policy makers in Washington to take action against Mr. Karzai — or even launch a serious investigation of the allegations against him.” Indeed, a GAO report from April made this assessment of the severity of the drug problem in southern Afghanistan:
Since 2005, opium poppy cultivation has been reduced dramatically in northern Afghanistan, but has increased greatly in the south. In 2008, 98 percent of Afghanistan’s opium was cultivated in 7 of its 34 provinces, all in the south, with one province, Helmand, accounting for 66 percent of the total.
Who’s going to be the first member of Congress to call for hearings into the CIA/Karzai clique relationship?



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Hey, all, it’s been an extremely long and grueling day and I’m wiped. I’m signing off for the rest of the night. Please don’t hold it against me if I don’t reply to any comments until, like, tomorrow morning. Sorry. Long day.
You deserve it. Reports out of J-Street give a Ground-Zero-ish, lay-it-all-on-the-table-type picture, though I am not in a position to judge that. Meanwhile, perhaps the single worst news day out of Afghanistan since probably 9/11. Jesus.
It makes those far out stories about the CIA involved in cocaine smuggling seem almost feasible.
At this point, it seems awfully tough to convince the American public it’s a good idea to prop up what is pretty much a narco state.
In other words, Bush/Cheney OK the financing of the opium trade. Maybe they were happy because much of it goes into Russia?
All I can say is if they choose to increase troop involvement, this won’t help. Unless, this was a leak from the admin to sell their plan coming out early next month that involves less American involvement.
Whatever is going to happen what seems apparent is every time you lift another stone you get another peak at what inaction in Afghanistan for the last seven years resulted in.
Reagan abandoned them in the 80′s.
Bush abandoned them after 2001.
The result is a population that has no trust in us. Now what?
Ahmm, it’s well PAST time for serious Congressional hearings.
Oh wait…. what issue was this?
So damned many…..
Ooh ooh ooh, I know I know!
Lieberman!
no?
McCain!
no?
Graham!
no?….
If it turns out that Ahmed Wali Karzai is on the payroll of the CIA, then why the hell are we there? Will the Republicans continue their insane push to up the U.S. troop levels even higher than the additional 40k?
This is already the longest war in U.S. history and we appear to be no closer to any metric of victory than we were 7 years ago. Simply mindlessly bringing in more troops will not bring us any closer to any conceivable measure of victory. We seem to have no idea what we are fighting for.
We sure as hell aren’t fighting for democracy, so why are we there?
Air America with Mel Gibson. Remember the movie ? How about the reports of military cargo planes coming back from ‘Nam loaded with drugs ?
And you think Afghanistan is the Narco State. The War Against Drugs would make a lovely method of killing unauthorized competition to American O.C. That would be the bunch funding politicians.
Back to basics : War is a Racket
http://iraqforsale.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/6351-oglesby
Hamid Karzai’s brother, who has long been suspected of running a drug ring in southern Afghanistan
Uh thats Taliban turf right I thought they were a different tribe so the people who hate us are bros with our Bush picked hand puppet and they are on the CIA payroll?
Its one thing to have a mole in an organization killing American Troops its another to have the Boss of the guys killing American troops on the payroll.
LEAVE NOW!
Gasman
Just noticed your query. Would drug running ( poppies ) and money laundering qualify ? Plus you must have noticed all the lovely graft from ‘defense’ contracts.
South Afghanistan is Taliban do we are funding our enemies and cutting our supposed Allies profits? Its time to fire the entire CIA!
“Who’s going to be the first member of Congress to call for hearings into the CIA/Karzai clique relationship?” ; not a Dem becuase that would be critizing the President in a ‘crucial moment’ ; and with Lieberman head of the Homeland Security Cmte.,well…..
Mr. Panetta has some splainin to do.
Spenc these leaks make Kerry, McCain and all the ProWar Generals look like fools the timing is obvious again I smell Rahm only now he is working on our side now?
Rahm’s tell tale is WH leaks against the President’s stated policy and everything I’ve heard was yes or no 40,000 more troops
Despite the polls saying we should leave the Media has been trying to change our minds again.
If Obama is serious this should hit the MSM.
Kinda makes yah wonder if you tie in the suit against the State Dept by an ex DEA agent stationed in Myanmar for interfering with his work. I think they used CIA bugs.
It’d be nice to have congress ask Mr. Goss and a bunch of his ‘Gosslings’ too…! ;-)
I’ve been suspect of Afghan/Opium and ALL of our reasons for being there for years.
Air America in SE Asia wasn’t an accident, and a lot of money and drugs were moved.
Iran/Contra replayed the same game.
Likely USA has been playing a game of the same sorts in Afghan since we invaded Tora Bora.
Where the drugs and the money go, and for what purpose, will be a great puzzle to flesh out in the public sphere.
Same as it ever was.
Way to get into this Spencer. It’s been a long time coming.
The real shock is if anyone is surprised by this … same crap has been happening for years, all around the Globe.
Ok assuming this story gets news coverage just how can the GOP spin this so we don’t pull all the troops out?
How about an attention span of two milliseconds ? I was just going back over notes on Benadir Bhutto’s death : which looked like a mob hit with missing guards…rather like JFK in Dallas some years ago. CIA overtones with Bhutto too…something about spilling the beans on bin Ladin’s story being a farce.
We should truly pull the vast majority of them out… It costs us $400 per gallon of gas and it takes 8-10 gallons per day… Per soldier… Why do you think Mr. Halliburton is so anxious to have Obama stop ‘dithering’…?
Shades of The Golden Triangle.
And RIP, Gary Webb.
F*ck…! Two shots to one’s forehead is suicide…? Shades of Tillman…!
3 UN staff, 5 attackers, 2 others dead in militant raid on Kabul UN guest house. It keeps coming.
I’m wondering with Spenc’s story how the GOP can hope to keep any public support for the war.
Taliban is in the South.
Taliban funds the war with drug money.
Northern Drugs go down Southern Drugs go up only Bush’s puppet has a brother running the scam.
That and he’s on the CIA payroll.
There is no way to spin this if the Press covers this for once!
Let’s pray that Schakowsky has the fortitude…
Only 5 times…?
Yeah Right they only been caught 5 times!
We need a whole new ‘Church Committee’ investigation…!
Agreed Only I want to get Popcorn first! Stupidity like this deserves punishment!
Spence… Check out this letter of resignation from a current serving FSO in Afghanistan… Scroll down to page two…
He already posted on it, C, though I would be eager to hear more from Attackerman on Captain Hoh myself as well. The most remarkable thing about the letter to me is how he went from signing on from out of government less than a year ago for a civilian mission that was explicitly to be carried out in the context of an escalating Western war to a principled resignation over the failure of the administration to announce a policy of total withdrawal of all resources from the country (read it: that’s what it says) less than a year later. I’m not completely sure how seriously a transformation like that can be taken as a policy bellwether myself, though clearly the optics are intense. I’m more than a bit concerned about the impact the combination of those two conditions could have on policy. Strangely enough, there is SO much news overnight that Captain Hoh may be a lower-order issue by COB tomorrow than he would have on any other day in months or more.
Kabul Update 4:59 am EDT: 6 UN staff dead incl. 1 American; also 2 Afghan security officers & 1 civilian.
Also: Death toll rising at 43 in Peshawar blast as SecState arrives in Islamabad for three days of talks aimed, according to Mark Landler in the Times, at broadening the U.S. relationship with Pakistan “beyond the security and antiterrorism concerns that have dominated ties and sowed mutual suspicion.”
Same ol, same ol. My father was offered thousands of dollars by Air America/CIA to fly “sticky white packages” out of the Golden Triangle when he was serving in Vietnam. Very big money in the mid-60s, which he refused.
You know, I don’t think “inadvertently” is the right word. We NEED the Taliban to be strong to help publicly justify our presence there. The whole point of this so-called war is to build giant bases to project American military power into the heart of Asia, yes? To threaten the Chinese and the Russians…
All we ever get are lies. Lies, lies, lies.
Te question is ‘How much CIA money comes from the drug trade’?
I can’t believe anyone is surprised by this. If you think back to how the CIA recruited Hamid Karzai to be President, I’d be shocked if the whole family wasn’t on CIA payroll. Obviously they didn’t do enough of a background check though.
This is just the tip of the iceberg on the opium connection. You think you can drop tens of thousands of soldiers into the biggest poppy field in the world and some of them won’t go rogue? I heard personally from several soldiers coming back that Americans are involved in the drug trade.
Yet another scandal that dovetails with Sibel Edmonds’ claims.
Has Spencer even written about Sibel Edmonds yet?
“EDMONDS: Okay. So these conversations, between 1997 and 2001, had to do with a Central Asia operation that involved bin Laden. Not once did anybody use the word “al-Qaeda.” It was always “mujahideen,” always “bin Laden” and, in fact, not “bin Laden” but “bin Ladens” plural. There were several bin Ladens who were going on private jets to Azerbaijan and Tajikistan. The Turkish ambassador in Azerbaijan worked with them.
There were bin Ladens, with the help of Pakistanis or Saudis, under our management. Marc Grossman was leading it, 100 percent, bringing people from East Turkestan into Kyrgyzstan, from Kyrgyzstan to Azerbaijan, from Azerbaijan some of them were being channeled to Chechnya, some of them were being channeled to Bosnia. From Turkey, they were putting all these bin Ladens on NATO planes. People and weapons went one way, drugs came back.
GIRALDI: Was the U.S. government aware of this circular deal?
EDMONDS: 100 percent. A lot of the drugs were going to Belgium with NATO planes. After that, they went to the UK, and a lot came to the U.S. via military planes to distribution centers in Chicago and Paterson, New Jersey. Turkish diplomats who would never be searched were coming with suitcases of heroin.”
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
ROFLMAO… call for investigations….HaHaHA..
Just because this has been “officially” leaked to the Times, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been patently obvious on alternate sites, especially outside the US. Most of the Pakistani’s speak english, and there are a lot of blogs.
If our “dear leaders” even had a passing interest in knowing about this it has been “out there” the whole time, but if it makes the NYT’s I guess they have to stop feigning ignorance.
What a joke.
The Taliban, for all their oppressive ways, do not allow the farmers to grow opium.
From Dec 16, 2001