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Meanwhile, the U.S. has just announced its new strategy for combating the drug problem: placing drug traffickers with ties to insurgents —and only drug lords with ties to insurgents — on a list to be eliminated. The vast majority of drug lords, in other words, are explicitly excluded as targets under the new strategy. Or, to put it yet another way, the U.S. will be assisting to eliminate the competition for drug lords allied with occupying forces or the Afghan government and helping them to further corner the market.

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Returning to the drug trade, General Gul named the brother of President Karzai, Abdul Wali Karzai. “Abdul Wali Karzai is the biggest drug baron of Afghanistan,” he stated bluntly. He added that the drug lords are also involved in arms trafficking, which is “a flourishing trade” in Afghanistan. “But what is most disturbing from my point of view is that the military aircraft, American military aircraft are also being used. You said very rightly that the drug routes are northward through the Central Asia republics and through some of the Russian territory, and then into Europe and beyond. But some of it is going directly. That is by the military aircraft. I have so many times in my interviews said, ‘Please listen to this information, because I am an aware person.’ We have Afghans still in Pakistan, and they sometimes contact and pass on the stories to me. And some of them are very authentic. I can judge that. So they are saying that the American military aircraft are being used for this purpose. So, if that is true, it is very, very disturbing indeed.”

He recaps what happened after 9/11 and makes some sound guesses about what is really going on there between all of the countries vying to get in on the “Great Game”.
He thinks Israelis are training Gurkas(indians) on the indian border.

He sounds credible to me, and it comports with what I know.
I have seen pictures of dead “fake Taliban” .
The pakistanis identify them by pulling down their pants and checking for circumcision. Apparently Pakistanis are trimmed and indians aren’t.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/26/afghanistan.terrorism4

http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/main/timelinebefore911.html#a072101berlin

Russ Baker’s “Family of Secrets” describes how GHWB helped spearhead the creation of the Saudi equivalent of the CIA around 1976, after the king of Saudi Arabia was killed by his nephew.

Shortly after this, scions from the Bin Laden family and the dominant banking family (Mahfouz) began doing business with GWB’s best friend and fellow dropout of the National Guard, Bill White.

Some of this Bin Laden money went towards funding GWB’s early business ventures, as we are all well aware.

Less known ventures, as described in “Family of Secrets,” are the CIA connected airplane company that Bill White helped Salim Bin Laden start in the Caman Islands, which sold airplanes to BCCI bank.

George H.W. Bush used to stay with the Bin Ladens on his many business trips over there.

When the CIA was forming the Mujahadeen, the Bin Ladens offered their tallest son to help lead it, and Bush and the CIA accepted it.

Osama actually accompanied GWB business financier Salim bin Laden on international business trips.

The Bush’s and Bin Ladens continued to have overt and covert business partnerships ever since, from the Carlyle Group to the building of US Military barracks in Saudi Arabia.

There is probably so much more that we don’t know, like Trilateral Commission stuff, and the drug trafficking that Sibel Edmonds describes.

GWB shut down an FBI investigation into two Bin Laden brothers living down the street from CIA headquarters in early 2001.

Osama bin Laden was treated at an American hospital in the U.A.E. in July of 2001, where he met with the local head of the CIA.

The residences of every Bin Laden in America were quickly surrounded by the FBI right after the planes hit the towers, and they were all escorted out of the country with military fighter jet cover, without ever being investigated.

Newsweek reported in Dec. 2001 that massive air convoys of ISI planes from Pakistan carried hundreds of top Taliban and Al Queda brass from Northern Afghanistan to Pakistan, as well as members of Bin Laden’s immediate family.

No wonder Bush wasn’t really concerned with Osama Bin Laden in the run-up to Iraq. That family business partner already did everything he was asked to do, and was rewarded with his freedom and whatever financial sum was decided on beforehand.

Any other conclusion, in the face of all that evidence, is delusional, even if the Teevee repeats it over and over again.

I hope I brought something to the table, I know I got a lot in return, from all of you.

We trudge on for change, hoping we can leave this world a better place than we found it.

Long trudge, though.

But that’s not how they roll.

Now, why don’t they, we should ask?

Because there’s huge profits involved under the table and above the table, all paid by american taxpayers, by running up government contracts and the longer the chaos is ensued and propogated, the greater the profits!

Ergo, there’s no REASON to want to stabilize things. As long as the Russians, Chinese and Germans and others don’t get full access to the resources and distribution routes, we don’t need to actually GET them and build them, yet. So, in essence, it’s a war of impeding others’ access to the goods and routes (while peak oil and gas ensure rising prices for what remains in the ground), while ringing up huge profits from the government contracts and from the drug trades issues.

That’s how I see it, big business and the military and the government, all profiting one way or another, with or without actually building anything or helping anyone but themselves. And our tax payer dollars funding it.

So if our forces are ultimately there for our needs and as you point out not for any real altruistic reasons then go with the thinking of Ayn Rand ‘rational self interest” And if you go for “rational self interest” Then real efforts should be made to stabilize the environment through the means I mentioned. If oil companies etc are trying to get pipelines (I have read this) through parts of Afghanistan then fund getting basic supplies to former farmers of other crops while subsidizing the farmers who make more money selling poppies/opium.

I’M not saying she doesn’t have documentation, YOU said that.

I merely suggested of COURSE she doesn’t have it, it would be treasonous to have it! The documentation is at the FBI, and needs to be called out by DOJ!

As to her being ‘treasonous’ for revealing what she has, she’d be in prison or dead if that was the case, doncha think? She sure wouldn’t be running free saying it. So, there’s that little bit to consider.

Thanks for your reply.