As I said, we’re going to assume those direct ties exist for the sake of argument. The Times account is more skeptical. But go with it. What does this say about al-Qaeda?
First, al-Qaeda’s signatures are redundance and simultaneity. Think 9/11, Madrid, London: all used multiple operatives focused on multiple targets, acting in unison. That’s to ensure something blows up if and when something goes wrong. But here Abdulmutallab acted alone. There can be little doubt the operation was intended to go off on Christmas, for the obvious symbolism, so we would have seen evidence of a coordinated attack by now. The inescapable if preliminary conclusion: al-Qaeda can’t get enough dudes to join Abdulmutallab. And what does it give the guy to set off his big-boom? A device that’s “more incendiary than explosive,” in the words of some anonymous Department of Homeland Security official to the Times.
And if Abdulmutallab didn’t have clear ties to al-Qaeda? That he’s part of the cohort of self-starters al-Qaeda is trying to inspire, not train and direct? That’s good news too, because his capabilities weren’t sufficient to bring down the plane. As I reported in this piece, the most salient facts about this recent slew of attempted terrorist attacks is that they either failed outright or they didn’t kill many people.
Combine that, as I did in that piece, with the growth in capability of U.S. intelligence and law enforcement since 9/11 and we have… a manageable threat. As Matthew Yglesias writes, it doesn’t do any good to blow this out of proportion, since blowing things out of proportion to spur an overreaction is Usama bin Laden’s explicit strategy. If the Democrats had an equivalent of Rep. Peter King, that Ersatz-King would ask whether the permanently hysterical King is actually working for bin Laden.
I want to go back to this quote again:
“Al-Qaeda’s are capabilities basically almost nothing these days,” the ex-official said. “Sure, they’ve got a couple good operatives, and maybe will try to pull something big to make themselves relevant again … If we make them appear relevant — they’re at war with the greatest country on earth — then guess what? They’re gonna be big.” Instead, the ex-official continued, “if we treat them as insignificant, small, pathetic men with nothing to do with Islam, they’ll lose their relevance.”
That’s the right context, I think, in which to view the failed plane attack: a desperate bid for relevance at a time when al-Qaeda is under external pressure both from the U.S. and Pakistanis; and even-greater pressure from its inability to inspire the Muslim world to rally under its banner.
I saw Dylan Matthews tweet that the conclusion to draw is that the Afghanistan war isn’t worth the money and the effort given the diminished scope of al-Qaeda’s capabilities. And I respect the contention, as it gets to the heart of the question. But I think it’s wrong. As I argued in this very long post, we have a credible approach in place to break al-Qaeda’s strategic depth and core operational capability; box it into a situation where it can’t export significant acts of terror against us or our allies; and we can do this along a reasonable timetable of the next several years, prompting us to significantly draw down our military presence in Afghanistan. And then the “Long War” is… over. And by over, I mean that we can restore our security posture to one where terrorism is primarily an intelligence and law enforcement preoccupation, not a military one, since al-Qaeda will be the 21st century version of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a once-fearsome and now-marginal enemy. If we stop now, we risk unnecessary metastasis of al-Qaeda, giving them a new lease on life at a moment when it really looks like if we fight somewhat further we can be done with this awful problem and this painful legacy of a miserable decade.



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The other thing that’s weird about this is the attempt to blow up a plane LANDING in Detroit. The plane would have gone up over grey strip malls, many of the businesses owned by Arab-American or Muslim owners, with a very contracted media. Why even attempt to blow up a plane in one of the smallest international hub airports, rather than DC or Newark or LA?
Every government is run by liars and nothing they say should be believed. ~ I.F. Stone
If we make them appear relevant — they’re at war with the greatest country on earth — then guess what? They’re gonna be big.” Instead, the ex-official continued, “if we treat them as insignificant, small, pathetic men with nothing to do with Islam, they’ll lose their relevance.”
but that has ALWAYS been the case. Only people with an agenda, like say bush/cheney and the entire republican/conservative faction in the US would have wanted to make al qaeda seem outsized.
Let’s see
1. Jane allies with Grover and slams Rahm….
2. House & Senate have to reauthorize patriot act….
3. Fannie & Freddie are now able to pump Billions mre into Wall St….
4. White girl vanashies in Caribbenan with two scary black dudes (oh, that was a few years ago)….
Oh, look at the the Bright Shiny Object in Detroit…..
How convienent, especially for (2)….
Keeping people intimidated, divided, and conquered. When did democracy become crowd control?
Great graphic.
Yup, have no problems with that line of reasoning.
I am grateful for the guy who jumped on the terrorist. He is a hero, and that’s 100% snark free.
I don’t know if the fact that this attempt was less than competent can translate into some overall view of al Qaeda capabilities. Using your own assessment of Qaeda, they are keen on simultaneous attacks in a very public way. This particular incident does not fall into that category at all. Certainly there might have been a great loss of lives but the psychological impact of simultaneous attacks (something that would scream “we are everywhere”) would not have happened. My personal feeling is that it will be discovered that this person had loose ties to al Qaeda (if any) and that even they did not take him seriously. He might have reached out, they told him, “If you really feel like doing it then, here, take this and give it a shot”, but that was it. If they could have gotten a couple of hundred deaths then so much the better for them but I think that the people he contacted probably saw him as a fool and nothing more.
Exactly. If this were a real bomb instead of flammable powder that did far more damage to the idiot using it than to anyone or anything else, it’d be a horrible blow to Al-Qaeda as it would have permanently turned Detroit’s Muslim community against Al-Qaeda. But so long as it didn’t do anything other than give Peter King a chance to demagogue this for political fun and profit, it has the chance of helping A-Q — especially if the Peter Kings of the world insist on being Al-Qaeda’s press agents.
It may have to do more with where tha plane took off. Amsterdam is hub for flights from Africa and the middle east heading for North America.
So, there was a convenience factor and he would have blended in more in the airport and on the flight
Actually, the ‘signature’ of AQ is being unpredictable. Change things up, never the same twice. Pick targets that everyone thought safe. Look at the disruption and second guessing this is causing. And disruption is the aim.
Don’t mean to make light of this, but I’m not too afraid of a guy who sets his crotch on fire.
I was struck by the early NYT article because it seemed to quote Congressional GOP members more than informed
Democraticbipartisan administration officials. Was this a function of printing speculation from those willing to talk rather than more informed commentary – including facts – from those who have it?Continued, intelligent actions against AQ and others are obviously required. Something tells me we’ll get the resuscitation of color-coded “alerts”, and strip searches of Arab-looking men and attractive women.
Yeah. It’s actually a good thing for A-Q that the guy’s an idiot. If he’d actually had a real bomb instead of glorified flash powder, he could have done serious harm to a good chunk of Detroit’s Islamic community. But he didn’t — and in the meantime, they have Peter King doing exactly what they would want him to do, which is to build them up as the big bad omnipotent bogeyman.
But if Al-Qaeda’s a shadow of it’s former self, who do we have left to fear?
Bin Laden is dead. All the media/US Government has to do is to dare OBL to make a current video and get it posted. He won’t because he can’t. Dead Men don’t post.
By saying What’s the matter Osama, too afraid to show your face anymore???
the media would make it evident to reasonable people that OBL has deported humankind and now resides only in Bogeymankind.
No kidding. Epic Terrorist Fail.
If they have to be turned. Which they don’t. But your point is right on.
al-Qaeda, though, kills a lot of Muslims. Takfiri shit. They clearly think the route to convincing people runs through killing some of them. Another reason why they’re ultimately fucked.
Careful, or somebody might call you a cultist! Or paranoid!
I just don’t believe that we need our troops in Afghanistan. Let law enforcement and intel go after AQ and other terrorist organizations and get our military back to doing military tasks and not nation building.
This guy may prove to be just an AQ wannabe. Nut cases will always be around.
That would be my guess. As a reporter, I know how much it sucks to have to work on Christmas. You want to get the quote, it’s a fast-moving story, you need to show that you’re on top of the story and urrrrrgh I can’t believe it’s Christmas oh wait Peter King wants to make a statement & he says he’s been briefed? Also, he’s a local congressman…
Just explaining, not defending.
Jasper Schuringa
Yeah. What most folks forget is that 9/11 initially pissed off a lot of folks in the Islamic community. REALLY pissed them off. But when Bush chose to treat it as an excuse to go PNAC, instead of as a criminal action which was how Clinton successfully treated the first WTC attacks in 1993, he did exactly what Bin Laden was hoping he’d do.
Word. And I still can’t believe people don’t pay attention to bin Laden’s election-eve 2004 video in which HE LAID ALL THIS OUT EXPLICITLY.
eXactly, there’s a special circle of hell for the PNACers and BushCo for handing al Qaeda the win
The basis of your argument is that “al-Qaeda’s signatures are redundance and simultaneity,” are absent here, and therefore it is a sign of their power waning and then you provide us with this: “inescapable if preliminary conclusion: al-Qaeda can’t get enough dudes to join Abdulmutallab.”
Yet, Richard Colvin Reid, a/k/a “the shoe bomber,” acted alone on December
22, 2001, then a member of al-Qaeda, when sought to bring down the Boeing 767 American Airlines Flight 63, a flight from Paris, to Miami, by igniting a bomb hidden in his shoes. No redundance and no other acts by others. No one would cogently argue al-Qaeda was near to being manageable then.
Instead, in the present matter, the only thing I read, from what appears to be a crudely managed bombing attempt, is that this bomber was on his way to Detroit having two objects: to murder and create terror.
It will take more time than we have so far to determine what person or group sent him here, if any, and simply because “he” stated it was by al-Qaeda’s direction, does not make it so.
al-Qaeda is our enemy, but we must be cautious at all times to make
proper “differential diagnoses,” when it comes to figuring out which enemy sought to attack us. Why? Obviously, if we are only looking at al-Qaeda, while another group, e.g., a Yemeni group seeking revenge for last week’s
alleged killing of women and children by Obama’s authorized bombing, we will miss the next attack.
We can’t afford to miss the next attack by jumping to conclusions, can we?
You know what I’m going to do? I’m going to threadjack my own thread.
I’m totally in love with this Runaways video I posted. Look at how pissed Lita and Joan look as they yell out the chorus. God that’s so punk rock.
Triple the defense budget! Send 50,000 more troops to Afghanistan!! Invade Iran!!! Suspend the Bill of Rights!!!!
Crazy Pete Hoekstra has taken the bait even before being briefed.
It also points out the extent to which profiling creates many more false positives than false negatives, making the expense of profiling (or at least the way it is currently being done) questionable.
So what about the way this attack was carried out will become an excuse for inconveniencing air travelers more in TSA’s “we are protecting you” theater.
He is on Facebook.
He posted a couple of picture of terrorists (actors) in orange jump suits .
He is a video director and probably did a video on gitmo.
This is his company:
http://www.gwtfp.nl/site/index.php
Talk about irrelevant. Just imagine if republiklans still ruled this would be reason to declare marshall law! So far all we know is some sap took a plane trip from Africa (a country according to the geography of Sarah Palin), to Amsterdam (no proof he deplaned and got high) and then on to the world car capital of Detroit to bring down the plane by igniting some substances taped to his leg to maybe catch his seat on fire. Who makes this stuff up? Who is going to pay all the medical bills for this guys burns? Good thing we are sending tens of thousands more troops to Vietraqistan to protect us here by golly! Adul and Jose Padilla are now the poster boys of dumb terrorists and they should share the same cell for life. lol
Copy that.
CODE BROWN!
Bring out Cheney to snarl about how this proves that the Obama administration is weak on Terrah.
It should have been pretty clear even before he said it.
Silly Bin Laden, that was gonna happen anyway.
There’s some thought that the guy might be the son of a former bank executive. Still no idea why he did this, but his family, assuming the identification is correct, has money enough to send him to school in London, and provide a very nice flat for him to live in.
well, yeah. guy gets on my plane with a bomb, I’m gonna be scared. i mean, i’m not gonna say “well, let me take a wait and see approach and see if maybe the guy is an incompetent fool.”
Note the immediate linkage to Yemen when this story broke – convenient justification for our war#4 startup.
Meanwhile, the BBC is reporting that they think this guy was a student in London …
I think I hear your mother calling you for lunch.
Peter King was briefed? Was that before or after the incident occurred?
This is a good point, or more accurately, set of points. I would just defend myself by saying that Reid does seem to be an exception and not a rule. al-Qaeda’s major attacks — 9/11, Madrid, London, Bali and Mumbai* — demonstrate the redundance and simultaneity I’m talking about. But I take your points about caution in inference.
*Mumbai. Right, well, LET did Mumbai. But I saw this excellent HBO documentary about it that made the case that this was the first LET attack that showed it had, at the least, learned from al-Qaeda’s MO. I don’t want to use this to skew the data, but I thought it was worth including as an asterisked example.
“For the sake of argument”, let’s assume that this is what I thought it was from the moment I read the first report: another mentally ill wannabe copycat dud blown up into a full-blown terrorist threat. Anyone want to place bets on this? Now let’s discuss rock videos.
Some of the 9/11 hijackers had graduate degrees! These dudes aren’t the wretched of the earth.
I wonder if Marshall Law knows Deputy Dawg?
LOL. That one always gets me. “Marshall law.”
Sibel Edmonds has said that Bin Laden was working with the CIA right up until 9/11.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/31/whistleblower-bin-laden-was-us-proxy-until-911/
Bin Laden met with the CIA station chief in Dubai in July 2001, when he was being treated at the American hospital.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/binladen_met_cia.html
The Pakistani Head of the ISI approved the wiring of $100,000 to Atta just before 9/11, and on 9/11, this same ISI head, General Mahmoud Ahmad, was meeting in D.C. with future CIA Director Porter Goss.
Joe Biden met with Ahmad several days after 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32AB8SxK21c
G.H.W. Bush enjoyed a close long term business relationship with the Bin Ladens, and made sure that every Bin Laden in America was escorted out of the country without ever being questioned.
Spencer, do you ever doubt for a second any aspect of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory?
Not to be confused with Martian law.
I’m only going to say this: 9/11 Truthers and conspiracy theorists are not welcome on my threads. This is the reality based community. You go away now, and as a consolation prize, you get to think of me as intellectually stunted for not buying in to some insane and slanderous conspiracy. It’s win-win!
US kills lots of muslims also, don’t see a big difference: 20 dead by a predator drone are just as dead as 20 by a Al Qaeda bomber.
Or Marital Law.
Osama will never die. Our gummint needs him too much. He’s probably on our payroll now. I wonder what civil liberties are on the chopping block next?
Indeed, can you imagine if Hitler and the fascists had been this dangerous during WWII? Or the Commies afterward?
It’s time to lockdown the nation and move the Oval Office to Wyoming.
You know, while we still have time!!!
TRIPLE CODE BROWN!!!
Wasn’t arguing otherwise.
One of the 9/11 hijackers, Ziad Jarrah, was the highly westernized cousin of a 25 year spy for ISRAEL.
Watch his martyr video. He can’t even keep a straight face while he pretends to be a crazy fundamentalist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQziDmMk88c
Here’s the New York Times article on the arrest of Jarrah’s cousin, the 25 year spy for ISRAEL:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/world/middleeast/19lebanon.html
What are the odds?
What are the odds that the Jewish son of an ADL director would become a spokesman for Al Queda?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0
btw, headline from the AP, Yahoo news:
“Nigeria banker fears son is alleged plane attacker”
I get emails from his Dad all the time.
Agreed
This is not the right site for your posts. There are other places where this will be welcome. Not here.
So much we don’t know yet, but one does have a need to try to make sense of the pieces that have been revealed.
One possibility — they intended to have a flaming charred mess with much loss of life, land in Detroit, setting off a massive investigation that would impact the Detroit Arab/Muslim Community. Purpose — alienate that community from FBI-other security services, etc. If it was not clear, or difficult to ultimately determine the origin of sabatoge of the plane, every passenger potentially could have been a suspect — and from those who have come forward to tell press what they observed, it appears many were Detroit/Michigan Residents – US Citizens, of Middle East Background.
Another thought — not yet clear whether this flight from Nigeria to Amsterdam to Detroit involved a plane change and/or an additional security check in Holland. What is the status of pre-flight security screening in Nigeria? Is/was it a weak spot where it was possible to pass through contraband materials that would be likely detected at other points?
In other news, Pat Tillman heroically died in a gunfight against the Taliban,
Jessica Lynch fought her way out of a hospital, and another girl at Ft. Hood heroically took down the gunman just recently.
Anybody who believes otherwise is a conspiracy theorist. Call me intellectually stunted.
Oh, dear god, London is in on it! It’s us against the world!!
Tell me, where is General Jack Ripper, Col “Bat” Guano, and Major “King” Kong when we need them!!!
And Dr. Strangelove…
We’ll just have to hope and pray Obama, Clinton and Petraeus are up to the job.
“This is not the right site for your posts.”
Any factual inaccuracies you’d like to point out, or just uncomfortable facts you’d like to ignore?
Oh, OK, now leavened with a heavy dose of Jew-inneundo. I don’t want to ban you but I will.
Schuringa, sitting in seat 20J, in the right-most section of the Airbus 330, looked to his left. “I saw smoke rising from a seat … I didn’t hesitate. I just jumped,” he said.
Schuringa dove over four passengers to reach Abdul Mutallab’s seat. The suspect had a blanket on his lap. “It was smoking and there were flames coming from beneath his legs.”
“I searched on his body parts and he had his pants open. He had something strapped to his legs.”
The unassuming hero ripped the flaming, molten object — which resembled a small, white shampoo bottle — off Abdul Mutallab’s left leg, near his crotch. He said he put out the fire with his bare hands.
Schuringa yelled for water, and members of the flight crew soon appeared with fire extinguishers. Then, he said, he hauled the suspect out of the seat.
“I took him in a choke to the first class and all the people were like, ‘What’s going on?!”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581178,00.html
I hate to link to Fox but they had great quotes.
Does this mean the U.S. will now send troops to the Netherlands or even Nigeria?
Well, this didn’t take long (h/t ThinkProgress).
Expect Cheney by tomorrow on the Sunday talking heads shows.
I don’t know, do you really think outright surrender to Al Qaeda is the only viable option now?
How about TRIPLE CODE DARK TAN? That’s where we let them have all the properties but Park Place and Boardwalk.
Send Bush.
“When life gives you shit, make a shitstorm.”
“I don’t want to ban you but I will.”
You’re a brave man of consistent principle*
LOL, I’m sure I’ve contradicted myself a lot more directly than that pathetic juxtaposition. With reasoning skills like that, the 9/11 Truth movement is in a lot of trouble.
Anyway, you do you. I’ll be over here with my Jewish brethren planning the next terrorist attack on the U.S. and blaming it on the Muslims. You’ll be the only one who’ll have cracked our Jew-code. But no one will listen to you! Life is unfair. Because we Jews make it that way.
Qaida has, so to speak, contracted out terrorism to Wall Street.
Ackerman: I’d wait and see what details emerge about this incompetent fool’s “al-Qaida connection” before making conclusions about AQ based on this event. If the would-be bomber had tea with someone actually real in a mosque once that wouldn’t be a real connection at all. My money is on this guy being a lone angry little nut whose engineering project failed in a pass-or-fail exercise.
This argument makes little sense to me. You’re proposing that al qaeda has little or no operational capacity, have lost the ability to attack in their signature way, and yet we’re on the right track in AfPak because it’s important to degrade al qaeda operational capacity–which you just proposed they don’t have.
on another point, your title “desparate bid for relevance”–the fact that you are here, posting on a christmas day attack in the heart of the homeland–is in some respects a win for whoever planned/executed the attack. whether that is al quada AP or someone/something else doesn’t matter. The fact that everyone in US is screaming al qaeda the day after christmas, that senators are calling for hearings on it, is probably viewed as a win, by them.
I simply don’t get your liberal hawk view on how our military force is not the prime reason for enhancing AQ power and degrading ours globally– metastasis. WTF are we doing in Yemen right now, and how does that NOT cause instant metastasis.
Perhaps if you post on “strategic depth” and “core capabilities” a few more times I’ll understand it. Maybe the pentagon could loan you a nice powerpoint on it?
Turns out the alleged “terrorist” is the son of a Nigerian banker. I’ll bet we find he was really just here to innocently deliver USD 93.5 millions in secured currencies to some distinguished gentleman who provided very kindly and confidential assistances.
I hear you, but check that post out again. I didn’t draw any conclusions about the connection. I said I was assuming one for the sake of drawing out some implications.
Can I suggest this post for perhaps a more detailed explication? I didn’t want to recapitulate the entire 900-word argument. I guess I would say, for the purposes of a flip comment, that al-Qaeda is looking like a battered Soda Popinski in Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out and I want to deliver the final knockout blows. Yes, that’s flip.
The question of military force and metastasis: every time we use military force we have to a) factor the prospect of creating favorable conditions for al-Qaeda as a result and b) mitigate the conditions that would make people say, “Fucking Americans! Maybe al-Qaeda is right about them” and not “Yeah, al-Qaeda had that coming.” Yemen worries me, as do the Pakistani drone strikes, for those reasons. I have to look more closely at Yemen to determine what the relevant local circumstances are that an enlightened U.S. policy needs to address.
Fair enough. For my part, I am a bit amazed by how much wacky speculation or outright craziness emerges whenever AQ emerges as a relevant topic. I think the problem is fundamentally that we Westerners have been raised with too many Hollywood action movies and thrillers. When we try to speculate about the realities of something like international terrorism operations we have to remember a) that none of us has employment and clearance to actually really know much about terrorists and terrorism and that b) reality is only rarely as dramatic as the movies and TV. I think this current guy is angry little nut who lived in a basement and spent too much time watching jihad videos on Youtube and using his academic training to try the real-world military specialist task of improvised explosives. Fortunately, the idiot only hurt himself.
There you go again with your logical inconsistencies.
Just because some Jews dressed up like Al Queda and claimed to be spokesmen and said crazy things, and just because one of the hijackers was the cousin of a 25 year high level Israeli spy, and just because Mossad agents videotaped the 9/11 attacks while celebrating on the roof of a van, doesn’t mean I believe all Jews are part of a conspiracy.
Is it not possible that SOME Jews are capable of conspiring together and with non-Jews like Cheney to do malicious deeds, even if pointing it out raises accusations of anti-Semitism?
Not every Jew is Larry Silverstein, and Larry Silverstein can act without the universal approval of every Jew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
Keep working on that logic, and try to apply it evenly, even to Jewish individuals. Difficult, I know. You might be shunned by some as a bad Jew.
If that little dork is an example of al-Qaeda, I demand all our Constitutional rights be restored.
It seems that the TSA is taking steps to completely kill the airline industry as a result of this incident. For the last hour of a flight, passengers will no longer be able to move around or have personal belongings on their laps.
I predict an increase in business teleconferencing.
I get called a bad Jew for criticizing my fellow tribesmen and Israel like three times a day. You should use the Google. Your little hangup on Jews and martyr complex about being called on it is cute. God, when will the world stop persecuting you already?
Hurry up Obama, declare war on the UK!!!11!!
I call dibs on the contents of Harrod’s stores.
I reject your seeming fundamental assumption that military combat operations, military occupation, and military anti-insurgency techniques can actually work. I’ve never seen your response to the likelihood that raining down hellfires on wedding parties does nothing but harm to us, and aid to our enemies.
Maybe you could match up a music video to that. It would be all cute, and edgy.
Radical Muslim Extremist Joseph COHEN (aka Yousef al-Khattab) calls for murder of Jews:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572998,00.html
Before and after pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42900061@N05/4087138521/
That would be SOOO punk rock.
The progressive’s goal of making life easy for any terrorist that happens to get captured by the US is starting to bear fruit. In the past a terrorist had to think long and hard before trying anything. If he ended up being successful and dying in the process, then he was in great shape what with all those 72 virgins he had waiting for him. But if unsuccessful the terrorist would fall into the hands of the US and get shipped to Gitmo. And all terrorists knew what happened there.
Enter the progressives. With relentless efforts the US can not cause any discomfort to any terrorist even to save others lives. Indeed if a terrorist is captured now he knows he will get a comfortable cell with a large, flat screen tv and free internet access. Oh, and lets not forget three good meals a day and the best in health care.
In short today’s terrorist can’t lose. If he dies he gets the virgins and if he lives he gets a pretty comfortable life paid for by the taxpayers of the US.
I have written a poem for you people. It is called ” Aiding and Abetting.”
Aiding and abetting
Aiding and abetting
Ain’t none of us forgetting
That you’re aiding and abetting
Spencer is like a younger, more hip Tom Friedman on certain subjects.
Had to get Wall Street in there didn’t you?
I’ll see you a set of redundancy and raise you a sole actor with Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a lone terrorist, who clearly believed before he started shooting that he was not going to walk away from that Texan base alive. Murder-Terrorist-Suicide was his aim.
Although Hasan was connected by emails to Anwar al-Awlaki, an Imam reportedly connected to al-Qaeda, do we include Hasan as an al-Qaeda member, sympathizer, and/or terrorist, loner, or combination.
My point is that there are thousands of people and numerous groups with a myriad of motives, beyond al-Qaeda or jihad per se, that seek to murder and terrorize westerners, and we must be vigilant in not blaming al-Qeada for every act of terror when there is a long list of potential usual and unusual suspects that deserve investigation.
Here’s a poem for you tinman. It goes like this:
Can’t you just stick to the “Soda Popinski in Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out” metaphor?
Have to say that Mumbai sort of contradicts the claim. Although it may not have been AQ, it still shows some pretty fierce capability…
No need to blame on conspiracy what simple stupidity explains. The CIA had no clue that the Eastern Bloc was about to collapse until it actually did so. And the PNAC crowd is even stupider — they have a ton of money that they got largely by cutting ethical corners and/or through inheritance, but that didn’t stop them from falling for Ahmad Chalabi’s con and his appeal to their love of thuggishness, as stated in the Ledeen Doctrine.
I suggest that if you take a broader look at what I’ve written over the years you might reconsider that judgment. But if you want to snipe at me, it’s your right.
Ah, I see we’re invaded by trolls today. I love how you assholes hate your own countrymen more than you do al-Qaeda. You’re fucking pathetic, so fuck off.
That was the sort of copycat attack AQ was hoping to see spawned by Bush’s massive military response to 9/11. The key point here is that we shouldn’t give AQ what they want, which is a massive overreaction that plays into their hands.
Hasan. Good points all. I don’t really know how we ought to categorize him yet. You can see me hedging my argument (with Hasan in mind) above when I wrote, “the most salient facts about this recent slew of attempted terrorist attacks is that they either failed outright or they didn’t kill many people.” “That many”… you’re right to call me out on Hasan. More data needed.
OBL is forever. Cui Bono if OBL is announced dead as a doornail?
Certainly no one benefiting from the no price limit WAR on terror in the U.S.A.
Certainly not A.Q.
Kinda hilarious, isn’t it?
But some people will do anything to obscure this:
What the truthers don’t get is that 9/11 was designed to trick Bush and the rest of the PNAC platoon (which spent altogether too much time listening to Iranian ally Ahmad Chalabi’s “flowers and candy” garbage) into doing something that hurt the US, Israel, Iraq, and the cause of secularism in the Muslim world in general.
Just because somebody’s filthy rich doesn’t mean they’re not easily rolled. Ahmad Chalabi’s entire career has been based on that principle — just ask the Jordanians.
What you call “sniping”, I call objecting to specific ideas/assumptions in specific posts, including the one you pointed me to a few posts ago.
“but that didn’t stop them from falling for Ahmad Chalabi’s con and his appeal to their love of thuggishness, as stated in the Ledeen Doctrine.”
Phoenix Woman, I like you, but you’re smarter than this.
The PNAC clan is still glad we invaded Iraq. You act like they got tricked into expanding America’s empire into the oil fields of Iraq, vanquished Israel’s enemy, increased Muslim resentment around the world, and created hundreds of billions of dollars in profit for PNAC connected companies.
Jeeze.
PW, you are a Jewish-Christmas miracle and the world is lucky to have you.
Fair enough. Tell you what. You write up a longer objection, since I’m sort of at a loss for how to respond rigorously to your assertions, and I’ll publish it as a main post & then respond. Sound fair?
AQ benefits from our overreaction. If Bush had done in 2001 what Clinton had done in 1993 after the first WTC attack, bin Laden would have been likely caught, held for trial and executed in Pakistan about six months to a year after 9/11, and AQ would still be looked on as punk-ass scum as they were everywhere (yes, even in the Muslim world) immediately after 9/11.
The PNAC crowd can’t even rob right, Bill — they lost their chance at Iraq’s oil last week, remember?
The only people, besides AQ, that really benefitted from Bush’s wars have been the Iranians — you know, Chalabi’s buddies?
Think about it: In 2002, who were the Iranians’ most dangerous foes? Israel, Iraq, and the US. Well, Iraq now is a Shiitte-run state, Israel is even more hated in the Arab world than before, and the US is bogged down in two fronts. Nice if you’re an Iranian leader.
OK all, I’m off to do other stuff. Thanks for a mostly good thread, and, like Shawty said, big up to all my (Jew)haters.
Why do racists and anti semites suddenly think this would be a place receptive to their venom?
What the truthers don’t get is that 9/11 was designed to trick Bush and the rest of the PNAC platoon (which spent altogether too much time listening to Iranian ally Ahmad Chalabi’s “flowers and candy” garbage) into doing something that hurt the US, Israel, Iraq, and the cause of secularism in the Muslim world in general.
Are you at all familiar with PNAC’s work and mission? It was all about wanting to invade and dominate the Middle East, and expand America’s and Israel’s empire.
“Section V of Rebuilding America’s Defenses, entitled “Creating Tomorrow’s Dominant Force”, includes the sentence: “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor”"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
It was also a continuation of the “A Clean Break: A New Strategy For Securing the Realm” paper that (1970) Israeli spy Richard Perle wrote for Netanyahu in 1996.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
They didn’t get tricked into anything. 9/11 was their wet dream which “changed everything.”
Even if the U.S. and Israel continue bombing wedding parties, starving children, and invading countries with more depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and white phosphorus, it will still be to the great benefit of the PNAC clan.
You think they were sad to write and pass the Patriot Act? You think they would be sad to Pass Patriot Act 2,3, and 4?
Iran was targeted all along, and there are still major rumblings and constant U.S. and Israeli media propaganda against Iran.
All that’s needed is a catalyzing event, like a new 9/11, to make it okay for the U.S. to allow Israel to fly over Iraq and start WWIII.
Did Exxon benefit from the Iraq war? Gas prices went through the roof and they made record profits? Did Haliburton benefit from the Iraq war?
What about Raytheon, Boeing, Blackwater, and the expansion of the public/private intelligence/covert ops apparatus?
Profit=Benefit, especially for people who aren’t passionate about the long-term fiscal solvency and security of the U.S.
In fact, all the major players benefit. This War on Terror Passion Play is the replacement for the defunct Communist Menace, which was a replacement for the National Socialist Menace.
The U.S. is the major armament producer in the world. Who benefits in the US from world-wide peace? Not down to Joe Blow, who will rail against a base closure which supplies his livelihood. Same for the Joe Blows making Land Mines. Any nation that refuses to outlaw Land Mines is a dangerous nation, especially to civilian populations.
Just got swarm of tweets about that. Looks like they all reference THIS NYTimes story at the moment.
A bit unclear if it’s “no electronic at any time” (on flights into USA), or just for the last hour.
I guess if you were coming from Canada or someplace close this would at least mean the same either way.
I expect a massive overreation. More telepresence would be nice, but short term, keeping these air lockdown rules will just seed more avoidance of the USA by international travelers.
Osama rings a bell and Peter King gets frightened. He’s been better trained by Al Qaeda than their last three groups of terrorists.
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“Yemen worries me, as do the Pakistani drone strikes, for those reasons. I have to look more closely at Yemen to determine what the relevant local circumstances are that an enlightened U.S. policy needs to address.”
Yemen is clearly becoming a significant theatre of combat with al-Quada, and I would just suggest a few items to look into.
First — Up till the 1990′s Yemen was two countries, North and South, with the North a Marxist State where the Stasi of former East Germany had the franchise to manage things for the DDR and the Soviet Union. Former Stasi officers memoirs are full of stories about their delightful times in North Yemen. Following the fall of the wall in Berlin, they were withdrawn, and a civil war followed, lasting for about three years. Ongoing during the Gulf War and the 1991 invasion of Iraq and “liberation” of Kuwait. North Yemen made efforts to land arms from North Korea, to pass on to Iraq. Post Gulf War — Saudi Arabia provided assistance to South Yemen so they could prevail in the Civil War. But the Cold War aspects of all this are laid atop existing tribal conflicts that have nothing much to do with Cold War alliances.
In NW Yemen, a minority group of clans and tribes that are Shia have long been in conflict with the majority Sunni. In recent years the Saudi’s have claimed they are smuggling arms to the Shia in NE Saudi Arabia under sponsorship of Iran. Last summer several Saudi border guards were killed by these Shia, the Saudi’s responded by bombing their camps, and have sent ground troops in, captured prisoners, and claim in the Saudi Press, confessions. They claim both Iranian and North Korean origin of captured arms. The Yemeni Army has also attacked these Shia clans.
I believe it was in 2008, but al-Quada announced the merger of all al-Quada groups from Yemen, Oman and Saudi Arabia into what they call “Al-Quada of the Arab Peninsula.” The Pakistani Press has carried a number of articles reporting ISI is handing over information to Saudi Arabia regarding al-Quada fighters, formerly located in Waziristan, who are re-locating to Yemen. This apparently as a result of the pressure by the Pakistani Military in Swat and in the FATA, as well as because of losses of lower level fighters in Predator attacks. Significant relocations to Yemen and Somalia ongoing since early 2009, with this reflected in the origins of the prisoners the Saudi’s have taken on their border.
Very interesting event in August, 2009. For about five years, the Saudi’s have made much of their re-habilitation/reintegration program for former al-Quada, returned Gitmo detainees, wannabee Jihadists. The program is run by Prince Mohammed bin Nayef (son of the minister of Interior, and half brother to the current King). Last summer Nayef was contacted by a former Gitmo detainee who had been through the re-hab program, and who told the Prince he had a number of former Gitmo detainees then in Yemen, and other former al-Quada fighters who wanted to enter the program. Asked for a meeting.
The meeting was arranged at Nayef’s office, but the visitor, who had explosives stuffed up his rear end, so as to avoid security checks, blew himself up in the Prince’s office. The Prince survived, though wounded. He had reached under his desk just at the instant of the suicide. The plot was traced to camps of al-Quada in the Arab Penisulia, which were attacked by the Saudi Airforce. To say the least, the Saudi Kingdom and Royal Princes don’t think all that too highly of targeted attacks on the current King’s half brother.
One upshot of this I’ve seen in the press — apparently King Abdullah has spent hundreds of Millions of dollars buying up the Yemeni Security Services in the wake of the attack on Nayef. As with the Yemeni Army, these services supposedly are full of al-Quada agents and supporters. But one can assume Abdullah gets some access to good intelligence given his purchase, and those who are linked to al-Quada likely are being eliminated by one means or another. I think it fair to assume at least some intelligence from Saudi Arabia gets shared with the US as a result of this purchase, and US Predator/Reaper assets as well as off shore stand off ones such as cruise missiles are being used in collaboration with these efforts.
US and Other interests involved here??? I would suggest one look at the geography. Yemen is part of the land facing southern access to Suez, and no country with international commercial interests would want Suez to be inoperative. I think this includes the US, rest of the Americas, EU, Nato countries, Russia, India, China, Japan and all oil exporting countries, among others.
I may do that, but if so, I’ll post it at seminal, and you’ll have to go slumming down there to read it. However, this has been brought to you before. Back in November you wrote this, and got an earful of objection along these same lines. To my knowlege, you’ve never addressed this criticism of your thinking–your apparent belief that armed suppression can effectively curtail or contain al qaeda, instead of actually helping–aiding and abetting–al qaeda, or for that matter, any other form of resistance that has gained some measure of local or regional popular support.
Your own writing, including this post, seems to be stating that al qaeda is no longer a signficant threat, and yet you seem to be asking for a few more Friedman Units to…do what? Inflame the Afghans and Paks with a bit more anti-US fervor? Throw in some Yemeni-US rancor for good measure? I don’t get it.
Here’s my theory. This Nigerian nutcase was pissed off that we bombed and killed his imam in Yemen for his tenuous connection to Major Hasan.
This is the endless cycle of violence that is the GWOT. Now our government will raise the threat level to distract us from the bad economy and lay the groundwork for increased militarism in 2010.
Those weren’t al qaeda attacks, they were false flag ops by the intel community.
We don’t know if he was a terrorist, or just went postal. The results are similar, although the motivation is different.
(Personally, I’m going for the latter. From the reports at the time, he was under a lot of stress.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mztfFdpd1Rk
Please go stuff your theories onto your own website, where you can ban and delete to your heart’s content.
because they don’t get smacked down hard enough in a lot of places, and they breed in the dark?
Folks can agree or disagree with the extent to which you see the dots being connected here. But you are definitely aiming the analysis in the right direction. Very, very rich and very, very and powerful men and women are the movers and the shakers behind American foreign and domestic policy. I call it the “Bilderberg agenda” myself. Others call it something else.
But one thing we can probably agree on is that it has almost nothing to do with “democracy”—or with the bullshit narratves we read in the mainstream press.
That’s why Jane will continue to be scoured and scorned by the Chris Mathews, “love me, love me, love me, I’m a liberal” ilk. She keeps poking around that “follow the money” trajectory. Especially the part that leads to the DLC Democrats like Obama, Reid and Emanuel. That’s a no-no. The broadcast media moguls simply will not permit it—not over the long haul. It’s okay to point fingers at Wall Street from time to time and say, “Bad! Bad! Bad!” But you can’t actually lay out the manner in which Wall Street and Wshington stack the deck. You know, systemically.
Indeed, I would love to sit down with Ed and Keith and Rachel and ask them bluntly, “is there a line you can’t cross?”
Spencer you don’t know what Al Qaeda is you are listening to the stories about him from the mouths of know liars… and you buy it hook, line and sinker.
Even if the U.S. and Israel continue bombing wedding parties, starving children, and invading countries with more depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and white phosphorus, it will still be to the great benefit of the PNAC clan
Folks can agree or disagree with the extent to which you see the dots being connected here. But you are definitely aiming the analysis in the right direction. Very, very rich and very, very and powerful men and women are the movers and the shakers behind American foreign and domestic policy. I call it the “Bilderberg agenda” myself. Others call it something else.
But one thing we can probably agree on is that it has almost nothing to do with “democracy”—or with the bullshit narratves we read in the mainstream press.
That’s why Jane will continue to be scoured and scorned by the Chris Mathews, “love me, love me, love me, I’m a liberal” ilk. She keeps poking around that “follow the money” trajectory. Especially the part that leads to the DLC Democrats like Obama, Reid and Emanuel. That’s a no-no. The broadcast media moguls simply will not permit it—not over the long haul. It’s okay to point fingers at Wall Street from time to time and say, “Bad! Bad! Bad!” But you can’t actually lay out the manner in which Wall Street and Wshington stack the deck. You know, systemically.
Indeed, I would love to sit down with Ed and Keith and Rachel and ask them bluntly, “is there a line you can’t cross?”
Bin Laden died in December 2001.
Sorry for the reposts. Can’t get the “edit” function to work properly
Folks can agree or disagree with the extent to which you see the dots being connected here. But you are definitely aiming the analysis in the right direction. Very, very rich and very, very and powerful men and women are the movers and the shakers behind American foreign and domestic policy. I call it the “Bilderberg agenda” myself. Others call it something else.
But one thing we can probably agree on is that it has almost nothing to do with “democracy”—or with the bullshit narratves we read in the mainstream press.
That’s why Jane will continue to be scoured and scorned by the Chris Mathews, “love me, love me, love me, I’m a liberal” ilk. She keeps poking around that “follow the money” trajectory. Especially the part that leads to the DLC Democrats like Obama, Reid and Emanuel. That’s a no-no. The broadcast media moguls simply will not permit it—not over the long haul. It’s okay to point fingers at Wall Street from time to time and say, “Bad! Bad! Bad!” But you can’t actually lay out the manner in which Wall Street and Wshington stack the deck. You know, systemically.
Indeed, I would love to sit down with Ed and Keith and Rachel and ask them bluntly, “is there a line you can’t cross?”
Many get it.
Were you with him at the time?
Where is he now?
No I wasn’t but I have seen sufficient reports and analysis which leads to that conclusion, unlike others who simply accept the myth cause the television told them so.
good god, this was a rich kid with nothing to do. seriously, he hotwired his underwear, clearly getting laid was not on his mind. the only relevance al Queada can find is indocrinating knuckleheads to do stupid shit. sad, but as long as stupide keeps killing people, they’re relevant. like rednecks with shotguns are relevant.
are you with him now?
I have a better question:
How did ICTS, the Israeli-owned security firm at Amsterdam’s airport, allow a man with explosives and a hypodermic syringe to get past security and on to the plane?
Is anyone else a lot less afraid of terrorists, than of the government’s response to them? I really am more afraid of beefing up the Patriot Act, invasion of Yemen, and/or suspension of habeus corpus than I am of Al Qaeda.
All the conspiracy theories are mildly entertaining, in a six-degrees-of-separation connect-the-dots sort of way. Actually planning and executing purposeful action is not something I’ve observed to be a strength of the federal government. Opportunistically using a crisis to solidify the power and wealth of the corporate elite they serve, however, seems to be something they’re really good at.
FINALLY!
Now we can get back to unilaterally supporting Israel against the Palestinians and cultivating petrodictators to ensure continued access to cheap petroleum without having to worry about anyone fighting back.
yeah, good thinking marcos, old stick, cause those AQ guys were out there fighting the good fight for justice for all.
Righteous!
Brilliant logic, Macaqueman. Using that sort of “logic”, since the Nazis understood that some percentage of the French would resort to terrorist resistance if they invaded, clearly the invasion was justified. Even required. Comparisons to the Nazis is always instantly derided and dismissed and I hate to do it, but when they US is committing fascistic illegal preemptive invasions, might as well use the analogy that fits best.
Our host, Mr. Acerkman, writes: “al-Qaeda, though, kills a lot of Muslims. Takfiri shit. They clearly think the route to convincing people runs through killing some of them. Another reason why they’re ultimately fucked.”
The same behavior that fucks al-Qaeda, apparently works to our advantage in Mr. Ackerman’s somewhat florid imagination. He supplies a few crumbs of concern about the well=known examples of the wedding parties, but fails to acknowledge (as is the conventional wisdom) that this is the gist of the US’s entire strategy. The lies are identical to those supplied in Vietnam – there were a few evil people called Vietcong, but everybody else was with us. The outcome will be the same. Vietnam slightly curbed American imperial ambitions – at least in terms of direct intervention – for a decade or so. I hope the effects are rather more sweeping and permanent this time. Whatever positives come out of this, the horrible, brutal massive loss of life brought about by American aggression can never be undone.
Except in this case, the US did take or abet steps, many of which are illegal under international law, that are undisputed in substance if not illegality, in the historical record, which have enraged people.
This notion that “we always blame America first” is a cheat, in that it would exempt the US from scrutiny for its actions. It is very similar to the notion put forth by sectarian leftists, that any criticism of communism is derided as “anti communist” (as if, duh) and since the commies were abused by McCarthy 60 years ago, all criticisms are invalid.
No, there is no safe space where bad conduct is allowed to fester unchallenged. The US has financed Israel’s war machine, including nuclear weapons, the US has overthrown the democratically elected progressive Iranian regime of Mossadegh in 1954, the US has supported brutal petrodictators such as the Shah, such as Hussein, such as the house of Saud, such as Suharto in Moslem lands so that they can get cheap petroleum so that we might live lives of convenience paid for by the squalor of others.
When the US does well, we will praise it, when the US commits war crimes in our name, with our resources, we are compelled by international law to be more than “Good Americans” and speak the truth about such crimes if we cannot stop them.
If others had us living in “3d world” squalor so that they might live in “1st world” luxury, then asymmetrical warfare on our part against the perpetrators would be a fucking sacrament. Since we’re largely christian and white, and they are largely islamic and brown, you do the math.
Spencer, did you never listen to the Clash, you know, the lyrics to their words, or are you just a fashionable str8 edge punk rocker clone?
[London Calling came out 30 years ago this Christmas in the US, I was in the middle of my senior year in high school. Had this record not been released, I probably would have killed myself for having to live in Dallas Texas. But every day after school, London Calling and similar contemporaneous punk rock kept me going amidst the bullshit. The Clash live were the best shows I've ever seen bar none.]
In addition to the primary actions taken by the US which enrage Moslems by what they do to their allies, Israel and petrodictators, which creates indirect enemies who would lay down sword as soon as the US stopped attacking its friends, the US is now engendering a whole new set of direct enemies, by sending in predator drones to blow up civilians.
While it is possible to assuage indirect enemies, once direct enemies are stoked, then that is a whole nother problem. But if the regime is running the show for permanent war for permanent peace, what else would you expect?
For all we know, al quaeda might not even really exist.
really?
Do you believe that they hate us for our freedoms?
Or might they hate us because we pay those who kill their relatives?
Holding Israel accountable for its criminal conduct as well as ending the policy of petrodictators would undercut the political opposition to the US which is the mainstay of anti american political support in the Islamic world.
Were those two legitimate political concerns eliminated, less legitimate violent resistance would not find a toehold there.
Which petrodictatorship did we establish?
Shah, Suharto, Hussein, Saud…
The Shah succeeded his father.
Hussein was certainly not established by the US
The House of Saud was in power in Arabia before the US declared independence
I don’t know about Suharto. I’ll defer on that one.
The US was hip deep in servicing those regimes, arming them against their populations so that we could get cheap oil.
That is part of what created the political legitimacy where populations would support forces capable of asymmetrical attacks.
All Obama is doing in Af-Pak is fighting the symptoms, kicking that can down the road using hundreds of billions in borrowed money.
Oh, you mean that we got oil from countries with repressive regimes and got hip deep in supplying those countries with arms and other nasty stuff.
Yeah, we surely did that.
What’s that got to do with Al Qaeda?
They don’t give a shit about political legitimacy except as it fits their religious doctrine. They don’t kill Americans to free people from oppression. They kill to impose their own brand of it.
If we are to believe what we are told by US intelligence, the people who attacked the US in 2001 were concerned about the US presence in places like Saudi Arabia during Bush I’s war. The basis for popular support for such attacks would rest on a broader resentment for US policy and its consequences on populations in the region.
People around the world feel the same when their kids die, nothing religious about it. When you kill many of their kids, they tend to fight back, as they should. The solution to that is to not kill more of their kids, rather to stop killing their kids.
The US need do no more than cut off military aid to Israel and abandon the petroleum aspects of the “national security” doctrine as pertains to SW Asia and the broader Islamic crescent.
marcos, you simply can’t make these jumps.
Being told that they were concerned with our presence in Saudi Arabia does not equate to saying anything near that they resented our presence because it reinforces the misery of the populace.
That doesn’t work.
Have you ever heard that there are people in Saudi Arabia who feel that people who don’t ascribe to their religion and practices must be driven out of the area??
Have you heard that foreigners have foreign ways and that they corrupt?
That foreigners have left governments that don’t accord with Islamic law?
They can resent any number of things. Some resentments might be well-founded. Some may not. The stuff that Al Qaeda puts out is far from well-founded.
Even accepting for explorative purposes the assumption that the claimed AQ connection is of maximal directness to whatever is left of AQ central, I really don’t think even any good assumption-dependent conclusions can be sussed out from this. First of all, the attack could have succeeded, in which case very different things would be getting said about the situation. But even taking the overall scope of the operation, regardless of its ‘failure,’ as the salient piece of data, there is no good reason to extrapolate to the conclusion that this reflects AQ’s current capability ceiling. Beyond that, if the connection, as is likely, is much more attenuated than the suspect himself claims it is, then there is even less reason to do so.
Have you ever been to parts of Texas?
One more time, maybe I’ll type it slow so you can read it slow.
US policy alienates most people in the region for the two reasons specified above. Very few of those so alienated will take action, they will just stew like we do.
But those who take no action might tolerate those who have more violent ambitions to the extent of whole communities providing safety to them.
Violence is the top of the iceberg, and the only reason we see the top is that there is something holding up the vast bulk underwater. That something is generalized resentment for the conduct of the US in the region.
I’d associate myself with Ward Churchill’s analysis of this, a link is more than I can do justice to in a post:
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churchill.html
The point remains that only the most chickenshit of enemies will collapse into tears like a schoolgirl when 0.001 % of its population dies in a retributive attack. Most empires that spew violence around the globe would suck it in , man it up , and just deal with the cost of living. But not this one, just as Bush I almost broke down in tears when the Soviet Union fell, the “national security” apparatus needs a violent opponent the same way that a junkie needs junk.
Last para s/enemies/empires/ in the first sentence….it was early in the morning here…
Despite the fact that it is a huge wake-up call for TSA and the DHS, Spencer Ackerman makes important points on how different this attempt was from true Al-Qaeda attacks. No redundancy, no simultaneous bombers on other planes. I would add: why Detroit? The World Trade Centers were an obvious attack if you believe what Islamic extremists teach, that the Muslim world is being infiltrated by western ideas through western commerce, and Spain and the UK were both allies of the US. What message would this send? That Al-Qaeda also likes to attack symbols of commercial failure? We also need to address the fact that 1. Al-Qaeda is not a coordinated group of which Osama Bin-Laden calls all the shots from the mountains of Pakistan, any more than the Hilltop Crips of Tacoma were being led by Stanley “Tookie” Williams from prison in California in their late 80′s hey day, and 2. The dispersal of these groups, while more dangerous in their unpredictability, also will result in horrible failures. I will add that this didn’t become a disaster because of an incompetent extremist wanna-be and some other passengers on the plane that were on the ball.