Doctor Doctor
Give me the news
I got a bad case of
The Liebervein Blues

Send in the drones!

The only people being petulant are those who think the anti-Lieberman crowd is petulant.

Like patriotism, anti-anti-Liebermanism is a last refuge of scoundrels.

Oh, and if some cat from overseas on a US bound plane with an M-80 taped to his dick constitutes the need to invade and remold his home country, why have we not done that to Britain, where Richard Reid came from? There have been other terrorist problems there (see “Bombings, London”), must be a hotbed ya know….

Fox seems to be the WH’s favorite channel.

Wasn’t the invasion of Iraq supposed to solve the terrorism problem?

I suggest Lieberman and everyone he loves be out in the front of the first wave of forces, leading the charge. What a chicken-hawk he is.

As long as it ain’t Lieberman, or anyone in his family, “Go get ‘em, boys!”

The only way to neutralize any of these bat-shit crazies from the right is to mock them.

“Real” Americans are quick to distance themselves from those that get branded as the village idiots. Logic, debate, reasonable dialogue doesn’t do it – Making fools of these crazies and their positions in the public arena does.

In this case the age-old addage applies: The only way to defend de”moc”racy from these ass-wipes is with one “moc” at a time.

What are the local dynamics in Yemen that a military strike would impact? What would the goals of such strikes be? What are the underlying political effects that have allowed al-Qaeda to establish itself in Yemen? What measures short of war might be better targeted to addressing those conditions?

Spencer, you should be running the NSA. Or the Senate Homeland Security Committee. It is the recurring failure to get answers to questions like these before shooting our mouths off (or our predator drones off) that got the US into the mess we are in during the Shrub years.

Evidently the Senator from the party on one is so flamingly incompetent that he does not even realize that shoot first and ask questions later has been a disasterously filed policy.

Mock him, and then mock him again

Nigeria in the crosshairs.

Interesting thing about all the U.S. military failures (Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakiston, Yemen, Somalia if you haven’t counted lately) is that they result only in the call for more.

The only way to stop these wars is to see that Hadassah Lieberman never raises another cent for breast cancer awareness.

I thought the hijacker was from Nigeria so a suspected al Quieda from Nigeria tries to hijack our plane and Joe wants us to attack Yemen?
This sounds like al Quieda from Afghanistan attacks us on 9/11 so we invade Iraq because they are also Muslim and don’t like us.
I assume Yemen has oil?

I think we should call it joes war, and act immediately, and hang it around obamas neck like a medal. then we should invade venezuala without hesitation. By then maybe the rest of the world will be ready to act to head the common threat of the US. maybe when we are completely isolated from, and without exception despised by, every other nation on earth, we will be forced to bring about “change we can beleive in”

Are military stocks down ?

fuck haddasah lieberman, frankly. there are many women, some of them rich and connected like haddasah, who would love to raise awareness for breast cancer, so dont give us the haddasah-as-martyr shit, please.

Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe
http://www.williambowles.info/wmd/du_contaminates_europe.html

Saddam Hussein was deposed, and al-Qaeda in Iraq and friends suffered a shattering defeat there, eventually – the country is now out of the grip of the sadistic dictator, and now has hope of democratic self-determination.

That doesn’t sound like failure to me?

A feature, not a bug.

Considering what she gets paid are you sure her job can’t be done by someone else cheaper?

Would you PLEASE stop putting Lieberman’s face on this blog. It makes me want to turn the channel!

Let me guess, Joes wife just got a job with Halliburton.

Thnaks for stopping by from the other side of the looking glass.

She gets paid by a health lobby group when her husband more or less single handedly writes health policy in this country thanks to Obama.

Even if you agree with that lobby’s goal, and perhaps even with the NEED to pay her to get access to her toad of a husband, this kind of blatant influence peddling is unseemly for BOTH parties.

Combine that with the fact that she’s been a health care lobbyist for most of her adult life and it’s truly disgusting. Not to mention ineffectual; are the Komen peoples’ goals really being advanced by paying her husband off through the Spouse Loophole?

Those who don’t know their history are condemmed to repeat it.

I know this one:

My friends at college, young army officers WHERE THERE. Charles had his foot blow off. Peter was a REME officer. George was an Infantry Officer, who used Karl Gustaf Rockets against the Yemeni’s and was commended and told not to do it again.

The Infantry were not allowed to use platoor main armament (40 mm cannon), and George used 84 mm (6 inch) rockets, and the Yemini’s complained that the Navy was shelling them from offshore. A Carl Gustak could take down a row of houses.

Hadassah Lieberman is a martyr only if campaign Jane makes her into one.

Sure the Shite majority in Iraq is best friends with soon to be nuclear power Iran. The Kurds want a separate nation which will really please Syria, Turkey and Iran cause they all have Kurdish minorities. Iran and Iraq have large populations Saudi Arabia, Dubai etc they have much smaller populations once you discount the foreign workers.
The second we leave the whole place will go up in flames. Plus Bush sold some Arab states Nuclear Reactor tech not that Joe ever says a word about that!

Things, I’m not really a fan (at all) of either Lieberman, but one of the things that escaped mention is that she really wasn’t getting paid.

Britain was a hotbed of Terrorism. The IRA, funded from the US.

Hah, yeah. People forget our role in their little decades long campaign of terror.

Almost as if protracted conflict is the goal, not conflict resolution.

Yep. So Britain should have sent missiles to take out Irish Pubs in NYC where a lot of IRA money was being raised. Follow the money.

I hope we don’t leave Somailia, Libya, Sudan, etc off the list of places to bomb. Leave no Muslim population behind. Is there a drone export lobby?

Dya think. War is good for keeping the little peeps in line, or if not, you can always kill them, at home or abroad, doesn’t matter.

Let’s do a poll on how soon before drones are used domestically.

The whole of the Sahel region (including Northern Nigeria) is Muslim.

In the tropical Jungle the tribs were typicially animist, and mnay cannibals. Some are now Christian.

Google Madam Tinabu or Ladder of Bones for More information.

Why do Missionaries get eaten? Becuase Cannibals prefer White Meat.

Just warmups before Indonesia.

Does Joe’s announcement signal that America is going to invade after all Yemen was not on anybody’s radar where would he get this idea?
That and Joe not Obama controls our government.

No surprise here. With his whoring for the medical industrial complex winding down, it’s time to shift venues and whore for the other MIC. Watch for Commander Joe to make the case that General Dynamics’ Electric Boat Division in Gorton, CT, should be building a special anti-terrorism submarine to keep us safe from the Qaedas.

Is Joe thinking America’s army needs a quick easy win? Is Joe selling Obama on a war to boost poll numbers?

Isn’t Joe Liebervein the guy who just told us the US should have not any more “epic battles” after health care? Apparently, that only applies to reforms needed in the US.

Much to my amazement at my own ignorance, I discovered the line across Africa that kinda marks the separation of the Muslim north from the Christian/animist south when I read Good Muslim, Bad Muslim by Mamdani in 2004. It’s one of those pieces of information that is completely obvious after someone points it out.

War is also quite profitable. Just another method of redistributing wealth from taxpayers to private corporations.

From the drone attacks that have been hotting up.

I have been thinking the same thing. Obama gets riled – reacts – when he gets mocked. He makes a speech and contradicts himself. Let him keep it up. He will fall on his dick or begin to tack left (in my dreams).

Somebody, Jane, I think, began referring to Lieberman as the President. We should keep it up. President Joe Lieberman.

Essentially, that’s what we’ve got.

That too.

There are no quick wins in occupations.

There is nothing quick aboutcolonies, occupations or propping up puppet Governments.

He will fall on his dick

Soft landing.

Turns out you can’t take over a failed state. There is nothing to “take over.”

next time we get a GOoPer president with an opposition movement. (I’m sure that Palin wouldn’t hesitate to use them.)

Surveillance drones are already here. So far, it’s just observation and data collection.

I’ve never read it. I lived there. The Housa in the North, Muslim. The Yoraba & Ebo in the South, anamist & christian.

Mr. Ackerman, do you know if the Susan B. Komen Foundation is a signatory to the Israel Project?

I know that Lanny Davis ,Lieberman’s bestest friend, is a senior advisor to the Isreal Project….and closely aligned with Lieberman’s various campaigns and PACS.

You did a thread here a while back about some of it’s(I.P) signatories.

I have not been able to ascertain if Lieberman or Komen Foundation are signatories, but I would appreciate any input you may have. Thanks!

Drones already are used domestically, for surveillance purposes, on a limited basis.

The FAA is very reluctant to allow their widespread use due to the risk of mid-air collision with passenger aircraft though.

It’s one of the best books I ever read because it told me so much about things I knew nothing about.

It’s not just Nigeria that’s divided that way. Many countries that span that line are similar. Sudan being another important example.

Of course, I forgot about surveillance. I meant drones being used to “take out” domestic terrorists within U.S. borders, in which case a downed commercial aircraft is a small price to pay.

I agree tell Joe.

If TSA keeps with the pattern of attack-response….

http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/bending-america-over/

Enjoy.

At a minimum, drones are used in ICE patroling desolate border territory. Much more manueverable than satellite surveillance, I would expect.

How much is she being paid? It’s hard to tell — the Senate Finance report only indicates that it’s “more than $1000.” But money paid to spouses is one of the primary ways that members of Congress manage to wander into serious money while in office, and Hadassah made $328,000 in speaking fees in one year. From 2004 to 2008, the Center for Responsive Politics estimates that Lieberman’s net worth has increased by a million dollars. That’s impossible to do on a Senator’s salary alone.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/calling-on-ellen-degenere_b_391183.html

Is she getting paid to speech for charity or is she being paid for something else?

I’m such a moron another war in the Middle East means higher oil prices!

A woman (uninsured 45 yr. old) told me that The Komen Foundation gave her a free mamography. Irregular cells were found. She sez a biopsy costs $5000.00.

Komen would pay for the biopsy if she were 50.

Now, this woman is uninsurable because of the iregular cells found by the free mamagraphy and she can’t afford a $5000 biopsy.

She’ll need to wait five years. If she has the big C, she might be dead before then.

This is a problem with the Susan Komen Foundation and their free screenings.

I’ll get a copy & read it.

If we stopped encouraging the Isreali’s from poking the Plaestinians in the eye with land & water seizure, the world would be a more peaceful place.

With all the money spent of “terrorism” we could have make huge steps in bringing potable water, and stability, to these hot dry regions.

Is it a mistake to respond to this with more than ridicule?

You’d ;ike to think so. I would, anyway. But probably not a good idea. He’s serious and lotsa people take what he says – no matter how ridiculous – seriously.

would people – TV & other media people – just start ignorin’ this shithead ?

Need FDL TV Channel?

A large portion of AQ’s complaints are about Israel, with the U.S. in its hip pocket.

The 24-7 Jane network!

Can we get her on Camera?

All that’s left is connecting the dots …

I’m such a moron another war in the Middle East means higher oil prices!

Beverly Hillbillies meets Apocalypse Now

Those MSM descriptions that “piss off” Mr. Ackerman just might have something to do with this:

The Israel Project’s Secret Hasbara Handbook Exposed | Tikun Olam …Jul 10, 2009 … Imagine for a moment you’re a general about to embark on a decisive military campaign and your intelligence service secures a copy of your …
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/…/the-israel-projects-secret-hasbara-handbook-exposed/ – Cached

Comment is Free on The Israel Project’s Hasbara ‘Fictionary …Jul 13, 2009 … I’ve been writing a serial critique of Frank Luntz’s 2009 Language Fictionary written for The Israel Projects hasbara efforts on behalf of …
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/…/comment-is-free-on-the-israel-projects-hasbara-fictionary/ – Cached

Show more results from http://www.richardsilverstein.com
The Seminal » The Israel Project’s Secret Hasbara Handbook ExposedJul 12, 2009 … Specifically, they’ve exposed a secret hasbara handbook written for The Israel Project by star Republican marketer, Frank Luntz. …
seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/6256 – Cached – Similar

The Isreali-Palestine issue is the running sore, the cancer, at the center of Muslim discontent, especially with the US.

The I-P issue centers on land-with-water. Land close to the Jordan River and Sea of Galillee. As the saying in the west of the US goes:

“Beer is for drinking, Water is for Fighting Over”.

The questions and answers about the P-I issue needs to be continuously front-and-center. There is only this one issue, not P-I, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, the Sahel (Northern Nigeria), etc.

Obama has to shut Joe up Joe is calling the shots getting all the attention.

In fact, Sen Liebermann is only displaying how out-of-touch he is.
http://tinyurl.com/y9seatf

I gather he’s been rather too busy to pay fullest attention to chairmanship of Homeland Security and one could speculate on relevance of resulting NWA 253 incident. His response here may be the product of a guilty conscience?

Richard Silverstein: The Israeli foreign ministry itself is asking …Jan 9, 2009 … Hasbara spam alert. With Israel’s foreign ministry organising volunteers to flood news websites with pro-Israeli comments, Propaganda 2.0 is …

The writer is an idiot. Here’s why:

“Large tracts of sparsely populated Yemen are, in effect, “no-go” areas for the forces of global counter-terrorism.”

Large areas are sparsely populated because there is NO WATER. No one lives there. Not even AQ. For example, 9/11 came from the “sparsely populated tracts” of Northern Germany.

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Is Joe Lie setting himself up for a change of parties again?
Sure seems like it to me

this person has questionable motives at best, no concern to the damage caused to america via war. Israel is front and center in ever decision, in every push, not america. was he born in america?

It’s clear from the Big Insurance/Pharma bailout last week that Lieberman and Obama are working from the same battle plan.

Naomi Klein will have to update her Shock Doctrine to describe the permutations of this kleptocratic alliance.

“Large tracts of sparsely populated Yemen are, in effect, “no-go” areas for the forces of global counter-terrorism.”

You mean like Afghanistan. Doesn’t seem to have stopped the US government from invading that country.

@79

Update: “Schlock Doctrine” ?

The terrorist is the perfect solution for the war mongers.

The “problem” will never be solved. Not ever. The “threat” will never be gone.

The “terrorists” can’t win, you can’t win, and the population will always be afraid. And the names and locations can be changed at the drop of a hat.

If you love making money out of war, there is no better “foe”

I have to agree with Ackerman, if Lieberman’s comment is to be taken seriously as a real suggestion of some sort, it was idiotic.

However, you’ll note that Lieberman was not specific about what “act pre-emptively” means. It sounds more like Joe was making vague-but-violent noises in front of part of his base on Fox, exploiting the Yemeni connection to the incompetent fool’s attempt at bombing to shore up his “let’s bomb the Middle East” credentials.

It’s fucking high time the International community puts Israel on trial and curbs their criminal activities once and forever. Let’s start with Dimona !

Ya can’t change minds ,or attitudes with bombs ,it just won’t work

You dumb fuck there was no Al Queada in Iraq until we attacked it for dubious reasons.

Lieberman has this exactly right, Spencer. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Besides, has Lieberman ever had a problem with Moslems getting killed?

Americans are engaged today in mass bedwetting over a delusional whacko who almost managed to kind of set a fire. Sort of.

I can hardly imagine the panic from a real threat, let alone our government turning those fancy 21st century military toys on our civilian population.

No. This is no joke.

Shock Doctrine by Klein and The Limits of Power by Bacevich tell the story of how the empire’s wealth blunders upward at the expense of everything else.

A million dead, another couple million displaced, copious ethnic cleansing, a government unable to deliver basic services let alone security, oil rights handed over en masse to foreign powers (though not the US, as it turns out). Constant sectarian violence; regular massive car bombings. Collapse of higher education, health care. Cholera outbreaks.

Yeah. Smashing success. Riiiiiiight.

I’m sure we already have.

Funny thing. I read yesterday that the attack on Yemen kiled 30 militants. What’s funny is that I just read a post (probably here) recently that almost every attack kills 30 militants or terrorists or insurgents or whatever.

30 is the magic number.

@#89

I didn’t mean it as a joke.

I am quite aware of Ms. Klein’s and Mr. Bacevich’s works.

I figured — just checkin’

are you so out of wack, that you believe that? Look at your country, look at the lies that got it there. war criminals decide what happens in america, what her military is used for (Israel) and look at the pay offs to business.

If I was a patriotic Yemeni listening to the criminal pronouncements of the most weighty US Senator Lieberman, I might feel compelled to, in the name of self defense, seriously preempt America’s insanity.

Not seeing further details I suspect the author is referring to the northern areas of Yemen (in which the British SAS covertly fought in the civil war supporting saudi-backed royalists against egyptian-backed republicans).

If there is now no sympathetic indigenous population in those areas, then counter terrorism doesn’t work.

We should seriously consider retracing our steps to the Richard Reid incident, and insist on preemptively attacking GB. Our failure to level Buckingham Palace, has obviously emboldened copycats.

Connecticut should recall their fucking Senator, post haste!

Gah, too bad you gave us the launch codes to those Trident missiles we bought.

…or at least we brits ‘think’ we have the correct launch codes???

btw, Please don’t level Buck House, it’s all we’ve got left to lure the tourists over these days.

“btw, Please don’t level Buck House, it’s all we’ve got left to lure the tourists over these days.”

hah, should have thought about it before creating safe havens for terrrrorrists! Drones away! :-ø

As noted before in these discussions while Lieberman may very well merit removal from office, there is no provision for recalling members of congress in the Constitution.

http://lugar.senate.gov/services/pdf_crs/Recall_of_Legislators_and_the_Removal_of_Members_of_Congress_from_Office.pdf

Leave it to congress to hold this power over their own members, in additon to their constitutional role in impeachment, trial, conviction and removal from office of executive officials and federal judges.

“Drones away!”

hmm, I hear PCWorld in central London has apparently soldout of “SkyGrabber”…
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126102247889095011.html

No shit! Now… about the 72 virgins….. wahahaha

I believe we’ve always been at war with EastYemen, haven’t we?

Sad fucking days, maybe we should just level Connecticut, or sumpthin’!

I guess one question is, are we already bombing in Yemen, or not? Another might be, do we have military instructors on the ground in Yemen right now, or not?

Strangely enough, Lieberman may be late to the game. We may already be in there, to some extent.

uh the list is longer than that… we have not won any war since 1945, and that was because we had Russia as a ally. lol I say the next invasion should be… (drum roll) MEXICO! They are close so we can all drive there. They have a much larger diversity of drugs than Afnamistan that only has heroin. They have some oil which is always a big seller to the neocons. Finally they also have cold beer for our troops! Nothing says good job to our troops at the end of a hard days occupation than an ice cold Dos Equiies or Corona and lime. Plus the troops could come home some weekends to help their families and save a few food stamps too! GLORY!

Who “in our government” was with Lieberman in Sana’a? Was he actually IN Sana’a, or is this his usually sloppy construction to puff himself up in importance for FOX viewers? It shouldn’t be too hard to find out, if RGJoe actually was in Yemen, who was with him.

The Iraqi state under Saddam Hussein murdered between 500,000 and 1.5 million innocent Iraqis, including women and children. This isn’t counting the million+ killed as a consequence of the wars he started.

Murder, mutilation, torture, rape and beatings, for the citizen, his family and possibly his clan – that was how Saddam’s regime kept people in line.

Despite the hard and violent times, the vast majority of Iraqi people don’t want Saddam back, and would like a modern, peaceful democracy.

Clearly, there’re some people who, by their own admission, don’t want a democracy, and are willing to blow up innocents to stop the process. Let’s hope they change their minds, or are arrested, or otherwise stopped.

@billy bugs:

Iraq under Saddam did give financial and material aid to jihadist terrorists, fwiw, but that’s not the point, at least not for me: he was a selfish, psychopathic, sadistic, murderous man at the head of a state that crushed the human rights of its citizens. And now he’s dead, deposed by the US, and executed by the Iraqi people. He’s not missed.

Ah, you beat me to it, Hugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdyKJ1xXph8

Can we count small airplane crashes?

You missed uranium poisoning.

Like thirty pieces of silver.

I’m sick of sociopathic politicians, the ones who have apparently lost (or never had) any sense of the value of human life and dignity.

If Lieberman and the rest of the chicken-hawk heroes like war so much, they can boot up and go get some their ownselves. Like that’s gonna happen. I’ve noticed at least a couple of casualties listed who were 59-60 years old; so Lieberman is of a prime age. Draft all chicken-hawks.

Peter’s Corollary states that “in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out his duties.” (See “The Peter Principle”)

The US Senate appears to be the world’s best example of Peter’s Corollary.