Consider now the case of Omar Hammami, the Alabama-raised 20-something now known as Abu Mansour al-Amriki, a member of Somalia’s al-Qaeda-aligned al-Shebaab militia. I didn’t initially take Abu Mansour al-Amriki seriously: he recorded a ridiculous rap video that Noah Shachtman and I laughed at last year. But after reading Andrea Elliott’s amazing New York Times Magazine profile tracing Hammami’s journey from whipsmart Alabama sophomore-class president to southern-Somalia holy warrior, he’s no laughing matter.
Hammami isn’t like al-Awlaki. al-Awlaki, to my knowledge, is not linked to any specific terrorist activities.* Hammami, as Elliott reports, is: he’s an actual fighter in al-Shabaab. al-Shabaab’s links to al-Qaeda are unclear and may be a matter of mutual boasting. But al-Shabaab itself is a terrorist organization, designated as such by the State Department since early 2008. All of its activities to date are Somali-centric. But its aspirations — if not its capabilities — go beyond that benighted country, as documented in this (discomfortingly sympathetic) al-Jazeera profile. “We will establish Islamic rule from Alaska and Chile to South Africa, Japan, Russia, the Solomon Islands and all the way to Iceland,” Ibrahim Almaqdis, identified as a Shebaab leader, preached to followers in the Somali port city of Marka. “Be warned: we are coming.”
That ambition is a parody of fanaticism, but Hammami’s fanaticism is real. He is anything but an accidental guerrilla. Elliott documents extensively how deliberate his path is. He begins with a desire to resolve his identity dislocations as an American Southerner with Syrian heritage through ever-austere Salafi Islam. He comes to view the stricter application of a facsimile of “authentic” seventh-century Islam as a panacea for life’s challenges. (No indication, despite Hammami’s evident intelligence, of the obvious contradictions contained in such a choice.) He extends that worldview to politics and war. His evident outrage over America’s war in Iraq, I think it’s fair to conclude from Elliott’s piece, is pretextual, an opportunity for him to live out his fantasies of a purposeful existence, something he measures through killing and subjugating people for what he considers religion. There is no evidence that he actually threatens Americans right now, although he certainly threatens poor Somalis whose hands and feet al-Shabaab publicly amputate as penalties for theft. But it would ignore the trajectory of Hammami’s life to say he will somehow be satisfied with his actions in Somalia. “We espouse the same creed and methodology of al-Qaeda,” he told Elliott in an email through an interlocutor. “All of us are ready and willing to obey his commands… It’s quite obvious that I believe America is a target.”
I don’t really know what to say about this. The guy considers himself a warrior and boasts about the legitimacy of targeting his fellow Americans. Yet he’s not done anything that rises to the level of a battlefield act of war against America. His deliberate and voluntary participation in al-Shebaab is a criminal activity. Based on what the evidence is right now, Hammami ought to be targeted for arrest, prosecution, and conviction. But we surely can’t go down the path of simply trying to murder him. American citizenship has to count for more than that. Otherwise, why not just murder all criminals here at home?
Update: I feel the need to caveat the *’d contention. Abdulmutallab, in cooperating with the FBI, has said that he was in contact with al-Awlaki. al-Awlaki confirmed that contact — Abdulmutallab, apparently, was a student of his — but denies any involvement in the attempted bombing of Northwest flight 253. While he has a natural interest in that denial, such an interest does not establish guilt. I write this update in the interest of being comprehensive about the facts as they’re known.



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Clearly we need to have a procedure in place by which commanders in the field can say, “Look, we think there’s an American in that terrorist camp we want to take out next week, can we go in anyway even if we’re damn likely to kill the American in the process?” and get a go-ahead from NCA.
A procedure allowing the deliberate targetting of an individual American just because they happen to be outside U.S. borders is a really different story.
I haven’t studied this enough to be clear that what’s going on is the latter rather than the former. If we’re only talking about the former, I don’t see much of a problem, though I’d like some active oversight to make sure it doesn’t slowly creep toward the latter. If it’s the latter, though….
According to Hosenball, the approval to kill Americans comes when an American is specifically targeted. Cue flashing red light.
But there’s more. “[C]ommittee approval is required only if the specific target of the assassination is an American—not if an American happens to be in the vicinity of a foreign target at the time of the strike,” Hosenball says. That creates a rather significant battlefield disincentive to finding out if an American happens to be in a certain place at a certain time when there’s prior basis for suspicion that s/he might be. See no evil, hear no evil, if al-Awlaki happens to be in that apartment building, who’s to say…
I should probably blog that.
Specific manifestations of dissociative disorder are culture-bound. I believe Omar Hammami’s transformation is a highly specific variant(perhaps unique given his unusually varied cultural identities) of what normally manifests as ‘suicide by cop’ or ‘going postal’ these days. He wants to amend an unenviable life by dying an enviable death.
This is relevant because research shows that people attempt to get themselves killed less in places where such attempts fail and go to trial.
kudos for bringing this issue to the frontpage.
FDL mustered sustained outrage for years over a Republican Administration’s warrantless surveillance of Americans, it is nice to see that extra-judicial assassination programs against Americans merit a post or two as well.
the comments back then were filled with hundreds of people expressing outrage at Bush’s transgressions, some even clamoring for impeachment.
as the admirably consistent-to-his-principles-between-Administrations Glenn Greenwald notes:
So why doesn’t Obama [Edited by Moderator]. They’ve done much more damage to the US than any terrorist has ever done.
[Mod note: No calls for violence against anyone are allowed at FDL]
So it’s OK for America to kill foreigners outside battlefield situations?
There is going to come a day when “foreigners” are going to want to have a conversation with us about that, don’t you think?
It’s pretty obvious how the reverse situation would be treated here.
I guess, we better enjoy the empire while it lasts.
“But we surely can’t go down the path of simply trying to murder him. American citizenship has to count for more than that. Otherwise, why not just murder all criminals here at home?”
I’m curious, why is this such a chilling thought,now? Is it because killing Americans has evolved into a de facto policy from it traditional de jure policy, against the poor and minorities demanding peace and justice? The seriousness of your thesis is comical. I suggest you research the 1960s and learn how the militant left (code for the Black Panther Party and other blacks groups) was liquidated versus the radical left (code for white dissidents). Selective outrage is a calculated performance, not a moral stance.
The whole idea of assassination by our government is chilling. Too often, as we see in Iraq and AfPak, there are other people (I hate the term “collateral damage” because it dehumanizes the innocent) killed that have nothing to do with the target. If assassination is designed as a deterant to others, it is unlikely to be successful. It is also too easy to get people mixed up. The most famous case was the waiter from the ME who was married to a Swedish woman, and they were living in Sweden. The infallible mossad tracked him down and killed him. Oops, it was not who they were looking for; he was totally innocent. Look at all of the swat team break-ins where they had the wrong address and one or more innocents were killed; one was a very elderly, sick woman living by herself.
That also brings up the question of why are some assassinated while others are kidnapped on the street or in their homes and taken for long term torture (how I hate that, also)?
Huh? How is my outrage selective. Surely you’re not suggesting I approve of any such liquidation; I don’t. The fact that it occurred has no bearing on the normative moral judgment; that comes afterwards, if we choose it. It is obviously wrong for the state to murder people.
This whole thing brings up one of the many absurdities of war; “just” killing vs criminal killing. Frankly I don’t think not being a US citizen should be any reason for a person to have less “right to live.”
Once you accept the notion that killing is o k it is just a matter of classifying it. The fact that our laws permit assassination to be perpetrated by government employees is just an early step toward expanding the premise.
I promise you when it comes to killing the only bright line is whether to consciously take another life or not. Once crossed it just expands.
Now a citizen of the US is no longer protected by law from his/her government arbitrarily taking his/her life.
I am appalled that this man Obama, trained in the law chooses to ignor the documented history of the place of the law in the most atrocious actions man has so far been capable of. It is impossible to believe he does not know what he is doing. (one could with Bush).
Serious question. Why?
I agree with you, but those killings were not “official” policy; they were just “wink, wink, nod, nod.” Fred Hampton and his small group were the most egregious example.
This is no different than Stalin assassinating Trotsky in Mexico City. Call it what you want, it’s still political murder.
I don’t really see someone who has a policy of assassination is “Nice, Good, Kind-Hearted and Trustworthy.”
Talk about slippery slopes. The USG is truly sliding down the razor blade of life.
Correct. Our “in force” policy towards murdering American citizens has always been de jure, until now
Last time I looked, Kent State was white.
TPAZ, I think you meant to write de facto (exercised power) where as de jure is official policy power.
I don’t believe anything coming out of the mouths of administration officials, especially anonomous sources. Or the beltway parrots aka. journalists who regurgitate the words of Pentagon officials, or paid CIA shills selling the GWOT.
I recall a time when a central value of American ideals was due process, habeus corpus, and a trial by jury. The idea used to be proving the guilt or innocence of an individual, even foreigners, God forbid! before you executed people. Guess that’s so yesterday for Americans these days.
The destructive and corrosive evil of US government officials calling anyone a “terrorist” must mean they ARE a “terrorist” is a perfect analogy to what Conservatice Americans accused the Godless Soviet Communists of for 50 years. No trial, no evidence, just accuse them and execute them. How convenient for our Totalitarin rulers to claim that “terrorists” aren’t human, while their legal lord’s sitting on the Supreme Court have deemed personhood to corporations.
Things are getting so bad, very quickly now, I have no idea what’s coming next, nor how to stop them. Frankly, our military, members of Congress, the Oval Office, and the courts appear to be clinically insane right now and their actions are scaring the crap out of me.
The ministry propaganda marches on selling their bogus war on terror so Americans cozy in their beds will feel justified when our brave men and women slaughter unarmed impoverished men, women, and children throughout the world. How else can they continue to reap massive profits without a fuss?
You are a great writer and thinker, however, your surprise and contempt for this administration’s approval has to be a bit disingenuous. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. What empire on the decent has ever taken anything off the table while trying to maintaining it hegemony? And when, if ever, did we, the US government, start?
That’s four. How many died at Jackson State?
I stand corrected.
Wonderful. Just f&@#ing wonderful.
By the way, since you brought up accidental killings, how often does two cops color kill and unarmed white suspect? Take a look at the last 100 accidental police shootings where the victim and offices race are opposite. Then, take a coin, flip it 100 times in the air, and match it statistically with the shootings. Policies outcomes are not random.
I digress. Americans were sanctioned to murder other Americans since the start of this republic. Terrorism is just the latest pretext.
Says who? A government official? A government official who now uses proaganda on a regular basis to continue their endless wars?
Saying something doesn’t make it so. Prove it.
WTF has happened here? We’ve been lawless for so long now, people can’t even remember how it was anymore. Brainwashing the masses.
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Why do you bring up the race of the cops? Statistically, it’s irrelevant, so what is your agenda in invoking it?
In America, like everywhere else, we do what we think we can get away with. Infrequently, there are incidents where institutional power learns it cannot actually get away with something after the fact. But we, like everyone else, typically become intolerant of bad things happening to in-groups before we extend that outrage to cover out-groups. It’s not dramaturgy, it’s the sad limits of humanity.
I don’t mean to be a dick but honestly, I have no idea how any of your reply relates to any of my comment. I’d love to explain or debate, but unless you can elaborate some connection I have nothing to work with here.
the degree of engagement by Firepups- 2 dozen comments – on the topic of barbarous policies from a Democratic Administration speaks volumes about the sincerity of the outrage against the barbarities of the previous, Republican Administration.
one of the Right-wing-talking-points that was scoffingly dismissed by Firepups in 2006,7, and 8 was that all the outrage against Bush/Cheney’s “Terra!” policies was merely partisan posturing.
by giving such short shrift to identical, or even worse policies of your Leader, the new Democratic President, FDL and the Firepups inadvertently confirm some vintage Karl Rove arguments, and I would think no one around here would want that.
This can be tied in with arguments that were used against the anti-tax people who claimed the government has no right to collect taxes.
The contract that the Feds have with Americans is that we are afforded protection in return for our taxes, we don’t have a right to not pay taxes unless we give up our citizenship. When we move overseas the Fed still can tax our income. The CIA protects American business interests overseas, they should be required to protect these citizens from harm even if they are in the vicinity of the target.
Your tangent into dissociative disorders and suicide by cop was a bit obtuse in its own right. At best it was associated to the topic at hand as a way of placing the guilt on the “victim.” Would generalize it beyond this one person to any Muslim and terrorist being suicidal?
I ignored it because to follow that track, interesting as it might be, is to deflect from the kernel of this discussion, the propensity of governments to seek justification for murder, when not finding it to do it in secret.
LOL. Sorry, you’re so right. It has nothing to do with what you wrote because I replied to you instead of someone else by mistake.
My apologies.
I have to say, I don’t actually have a problem with that “disincentive”.
If the target is “terrorist cell leader’s hideout”, and “terrorist cell leader” is reputably believed to be there, the thought that there MIGHT be an American on the target doesn’t (for me) mean we should forgo the shot.
(Granted, there are quite a few caveats in that scenario)
Now, “I want to kill American citizen X, and I’m specifically going after them” . . . that’s an entirely different scenario. But absolutely verifying that a “military”, non-American target is completely cleared of all non-essential military targets is too stringent a limitation. Certainly it is more morally palatable, but as a practical matter it just doesn’t seem to be tenable.
Seems to me that there are multiple issues here and the citizenship of the person involved is not even at the top of the list. You seem to be saying that you’re perfectly OK with the targeted murder of people who are suspects based merely on the say-so of your government.
Lessee here….
Weren’t all those folks in Guantanomo “the worst of the worst”? Yet many (if not most) of those “worst of the worst” were found to have done…well…nothing.
OK. Let’s say that we have really strong suspicions that someone somewhere is advocating armed resistance to the US. What exactly about that makes them a terrorist? Have they struck at civilian targets in the US? If they strike at our military (which is after all out there trying to kill them), does that make them a terrorist? Does merely advocating armed violence rise to the level of terrorism?* If so, were our founding fathers terrorists? Were the members of the Continental Army (who the British complained liked to hide behind trees, shoot and then run away rather than fight in the open) terrorists?
I submit that the words “terrorism” and “terrorist” have been debased beyond all meaning. These words are used to appeal to our reptilian brain and shut down our critical faculties. I think maybe we collectively ought to be a bit more careful.
The citizenship issue is a red herring. We don’t have a right to run around the globe murdering people based on the mere say-so of our government (and I can’t wrap my head around why so many seem to think that we do.) American citizenship is irrelevant to that fact.
If it’s OK for us to go around murdering people in other nations because we suspect them of meeting our debased definition of ‘terrorist’, isn’t it then OK for them to come here and do the same to us? And if it is, I submit that from the perspective of potentially hundreds of millions of people in nations in which we bomb and kill, anyone and everyone who works for our government, our military or any company that supplies them with arms and materials can be said to meet that debased definition. And if that’s the case…well…do you see where this is going? If not, why not?
The war on terror is a war without end and a war in which anyone anywhere who stands in opposition to the aims of our government can be made to fit the definition of enemy. It’s positively Orwellian.
*See Greenwald:
If you believe race is statistically irrelevant in America then you have not paid any attention to the political debates in this country. That is my point; it is a slippery slope once you assign different values to different groups. Rationalizing whom to murder becomes easier and easier until it’s your group’s turn.
what you post is mainstream, bi-partisan common sense from say the 1980′s, when even Republican’s were not as openly bloodthirsty and heedless of the Constitution and international law and the Geneva Conventions as so many Obama supporters and apologists are today.
you are right that the terminology is debased, with ‘terrist’ now filling the role so well played by ‘Commie’ in the proud days of the McCarthy witch hunts.
and at least back then, there were real Commies, spanning eleven time zones across the Soviet Union, with thousands of ICBM’s to be frightened of.
instead, now much of the country is supposed to cower and quaver and relinquish the last vestiges of our Constitutional Republic because of a couple hundred beardy-men scattered across SE Asia and the middle east, with nary a 515 foot nuclear submarine amongst them.
if we ever return to collective sanity, this whole era will be a historical laughingstock where the nancy-est nincompoops ran wild projecting their own fears and delusions everywhere, and good, deceent folk went along for the ride. See, McCarthy red-baiting, Salem Witch Trials.
What do you do when an American is making war on America?
What exactly is it you mean by your question? It’s not clear.
allegedly.. Americans instituted government to secure their natural rights. One of them is Liberty which habeus corpus protects.
They should track them down, arrest them and bring them before a judge. Arbitrary assassination violates that right..
A guy in Somalia may be a danger–the same way the guy on the next block who collects all the guns and mutters a lot about his divorce is a danger. You can’t kill the guy on spec, just because of what MIGHT happen.
We’ve worked ourselves into a national panic. We try to calm ourselves with the delusion that we can control the future by acting first. But all we do is bring on a future that didn’t need to happen and scare ourselves even more.
I see no justification for speculative, preemptive execution. Just like with the guy with the guns, we can be vigilant without going nuts. We can wait and see. Nothing may come of it.
But if the worst happens–with the guy in Somalia or the muttering gun nut–we just have to deal with it. Once we start killing people based on vivid imaginations, no one is safe.
Clearly, we’re in Naomi Wolf “End of America” territory. Constitutional democracies don’t do these things. Today it’s a “bad person over there.” Tomorrow it’s “anyone we don’t like here.”
Hey, I wrote my comment before there was any substantial discussion. Most of the post itself was concerned with the sad tale of Omar Hammami, I consider the extensive discussion of the immorality of assassination to be the tangent here; one that Spencer promptly put to bed and then wrote a whole other post about. In any case, in what crazypants world are people with mental disorders considered to blame for their actions? Describing Hammami as dissociative should evoke sympathy for the man in any decent human being! And if pressed on the issue, yes I would say that the desire to totally abandon one’s current life that drives some suicides also drives some militant extremists(and drove mountain men into the American frontier, and drives a handful of extraordinarily emo Peace Corps vols, etc.), that the strain of belligerent nihilism that can strike any sufficiently upset person manifests differently in different people and those differences can be influenced by culture creating correlations between actions and cultural factors. But all that means that I’m not saying terrorists are suicidal, I’m saying some of them are terrorists instead of being suicidal.
Now honestly, people can say whatever, and there’s a lot of views discussed here worth examining. But I’m posting about Hammami in the Hammami thread, don’t be a dick calling that a tangent.
I did specifically say “race of the cops.” The “of the cops” part is important, or else I would have just written “I’m an idiot racist who thinks there’s no such thing as racism” as my comment instead. But thanks for trying to make it seem like that’s what I did, it’s cool, I do that sort of thing too sometimes, it’s the Internet man.
Now, to be excruciatingly clear, the race of the cop is not a statistically significant factor in cop – on – minority violence . Police departments that engage in racial profiling and violence teach their minority recruits to profile and escalate to violence just like their white coworkers ; often the teaching is not explicit but purely a matter of acculturation .
The PG County (MD) PD is one of the most African-American PDs in the country, and has one of the highest rates of African-American targeting police brutality; that is not a case of a white faction in the police force on a rampage. No, when you see a white cop attack a black man, it’s not because the cop is white, it’s because the white guy is a cop.
As a final note in my experience most cops don’t have the latitude to be racist, at least not at work; they respond to and anticipate public complaints. But nobody seems to call them all that often to chase the white kids out of the park at sunset, for instance.
Sorry. But I thought the thrust of the diary is the implications of governments, specifically, arbitrarily claiming the killing of their citizens without due process to be legal. Whatever their mental state.
My stance is that there should be no killing of any citizen or non-citizen period. This because due process or claims of need for wars etc. will always eventually be expanded to the whims of those in power.
As to the mental state of terrorist. I actually agree with you without the need for psychobabble. These are I think mostly feral young men,who are seeking meaning and place. And yes I also believe homicide and suicide are two sides of the same coin.
To know the story of Dr.Nidal is to understand much of how this comes about.
Thus I oppose all war but this one in particular because I think we are simply tormenting the already tormented.
Now, let me be excruciatingly clear, and the question that you danced around; black cops or cops of color, acting alone, do not use deadly force against white suspects. Off-duty or undercover white cops are not killed by on-duty cops of color. Conversely, off-duty and undercover black cops are mistakenly killed repeatably (that means more than once) by white cops. Are black cops better trained than their white counterparts? Do white cops have poor vision? Without these and other mitigating circumstances, how do you suspend or dismiss statistical analysis with a blanket subjective statement?
by saying that you’re assuming your conclusions.
You’re still invoking the race of the cop, and I’m telling you it’s not a factor, the only factors are the race of the victim and the copness of the cop. A cop is a cop is a cop, and the bad ones beat the shit out of protesters and kill black people and blackmail latinos with threats of deportation; the race of the cop is not a factor in that behavior.