So I don’t want — ever — to trivialize mental illness. No one should. There are just going to be people who take whatever demons they have and direct them outward, rationalizing that nebulous forces in the world are responsible for their pain. If you can find Answer Me!‘s old issue about serial killers and mass murderers, the emerging picture of Colleen LaRose looks familiar in that regard. The difference is competence. We trivialize how personal so much of this conspiracy theory crap is by pretending that LaRose and her ilk are in any way motivated by religion. Religion is the means to a conspiratorial end.
About Shelter’s “Quest For Certainty” and why I’m putting it here. There is something that has always discomforted me about what Ray sings about here. Life is not and should not be a quest for certainty, because certainty is a method of self-deception. Life is and should be a struggle with doubt and a quest for meaning. Certainty gets people killed and gets people killing, all for mistakes that people would otherwise catch if they weren’t disposed to pursue their quest for certainty. As I’ve gotten older and I’ve read more from Ray about the path he took to his religion, I’ve been disinclined to pass such a harsh judgment — he definitely means no harm to anyone — and to admire the quest if not the destination. But we need fewer quests for certainty and greater reconciliation with uncertainty.



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Thanks, from being close to a person with mental illness, I see a lot of the desperate search for patterns and seeming meanings. As a doctor has explained to me, what we see as unreality is the highest reality to the ill; they perceive our inability to understand as willful and mean-spirited. No wonder the mentally ill strike out.
‘Clarity of purpose’ is the term for that quality shared by the various kinds of true believers.
The intellectual rigor you describe is absent in the kids these days because it’s only necessary for retaining clarity in the face of criticism from respected sources, and when you’re young none can retain your respect while challenging your core beliefs.
UnderWear Bomber, Inside Job. Oh just a Conspiracy Theory you say. The Detroit News discovered that Underwear was allowed to board an airliner with a bomb. It was a conspiracy by “intelligence officials” according to the State Department. You may recall the official denials about this incredibly clumsy False Flag Op. Is Dougie Feith still running these? Of course the Village Stenographers in Dee Cee have chosen to cover this up as usual.
At least they have some real reporters in Detroit. But these intelligence officials did put that airliner at risk, allowing a real bomb. The first WTC attack had a similar scenario. In 1993, Federal agents knew all about Al Qaeda Bomb plot and allowed it to proceed and six people were killed.
I think my point was just proven.
So who tells you what “conspiracy theories” to deprecate? Cass Sunstein? Got any linkies to prove you understand the mind of the Underwear Bomber-controlled by “US officials”. Do you have any linkies about the harmful versus the government approved Conspiracy Theories?
Here is one from 1993.
I’ve worked with the desperate, Frank. I’ve been desperate. You get to see patterns you wouldn’t see otherwise, seams and connections that justify your suffering. You need that vindication to survive.
A lot of those patterns are obviously false (not all of them, though!), or easily disproven with a light investigation; but when your certainties are your life raft picking at the knots is simply not an option.
I’d like our society to grant more freedom for people to ask questions, but the reason our society doesn’t is that so many of the questioners are already sure of the answers.
COGNITIVE INFILTRATION! Oh please comment on how UnderWear B, son of a multi millionaire bankster, could be so depressed. Since we are now practicing psychiatry without a license. Since Spencer has access to so many important guvmint officials, he needs to ask them how they can endanger hundreds of people with their stupid conspiracy.
Spencer, you keep attacking the Conspiracy Theorists, and you will get some K-Street Credibility.
That’s what I want. Me and the other Jews. And then we will come to eat your braiiiiiiiiiin
Oh, playing the Jew Card. That is a mistake. Once again, ask your high level sources if the Dept. of State is lying about the Dept. of False Flag Ops. Is the Detroit News lying?
The Detroit News didn’t “discover” anything — no disrespect to them — they faithfully reported Pat Kennedy’s January testimony about how the intelligence community didn’t want Abdulmutallab’s visa revoked because it would jeopardize their investigation of Abdulmutallab. That is not anything conspiratorial, it’s a legitimate intel/law enforcement challenge. It’s not a “false flag” or “inside job” operation. And it’s not “allowing” Abdulmutallab onto the plane with a bomb. It’s a legitimate investigative concern, and the trouble is that Abdulmutallab wasn’t not subsequently placed on a no-fly list where he could have been stopped from boarding a plane.
You simply don’t understand the very material you’re presenting as evidence of a conspiracy theory. Nothing I say or do will ever change your mind, and accordingly, I don’t care. It was a mistake for me to respond to your foolish ranting and the mistake ends this moment.
Heh, I like these comments. They don’t call him Attackerman for nothing.
Oh just incompetent security who failed to search Underwear or at least make him take off his shoes. He was escorted onto the plane by Security by the way. This would still be secret but passengers reported it.
You are incredibly supportive of the national security neo-cons who have one failure after the other.
Perhaps you should go to DKos where “Conspiracy Theories” are censored. I present facts that you first deny then admit are true. The government allowed a known terrorist aboard an airliner, and failed to search him. I also presented evidence that the first WTC attack was known to “Security officials”. Then these officials lied about both of these attacks.
Your “meme” about the psychological reasons for “Jihad Terrorism” is doubtful. Your knowledge of KSM and Al Qaeda also is quite incomplete, and seems to follow the fiction of Philip Zelikow. You call me foolish and have insulted me but I have called you no names. I may start.