Must read of the day: Eli Lake’s beast of a piece about how the establishment American Jewish organizations have abandoned their longstanding sub-rosa efforts lobbying on behalf of the former Israeli quasi-ally now that the Turkish government has broken with Israel over Gaza.
On the one hand, the Shtetl Elders are throwing “Islamist” at the AK Party sloppily — Erdogan is a billion light years away from bin Laden, another demonstration that the term “Islamist” conceals more than it illuminates — though I suppose no one should be surprised that the Shtetl leadership is not going to reflect on whether something might be wrong with Israeli policy if it’s alienating its decades-long friend in the Muslim world. So much more convenient to blame Erdogan. On the other, Turkey can’t reasonably expect the support of the Shtetl leadership if it’s not going to do what the Shtetl leadership wants. Now’s a great time for someone in Congress to propose a resolution commemorating the Armenian Genocide.
And speaking of. It’s time to settle a score.
Five or six years ago I was at a rager at Eli’s old place in Adams-Morgan. Eli’s parties attract a certain crowd: journalists, flacks, keepers of the eternal Bushian flame, the occasional Chalabi aide, Jews, people who enjoy soft rock and softer drugs, more Jews. I always have a good time. On this particular occasion, I found myself packed near the fridge in a conversation with a fellow Jew — a PR guy who seemed cool — while we sipped some beers. He mentioned that his firm did some work for the Turks. Ah, the Turks, I said, drunk, very cool, very cool. With typical tact, I allowed that there was that one shame, that whole Armenian Genocide.
“Well,” he said, “if you look at the historical record, it’s not entirely so clear-cut what happened.”
What? I had read Samantha Power’s first book. I knew about Henry Morgenthau and Robert (“…silence on the part of our Government is perilous and that for our Government to make no public protest against a crime of such magnitude by a Government on noncombatants, the great majority of them women and children, is to miss an unusual opportunity to serve humanity…”) Lansing. I knew that there’s drunk and there’s extremely-drunk, but there isn’t genocide-denying-drunk.
Seriously, man? I said. You’re a Jew. How can you say the Armenian Genocide never happened?
Apparently I had walked into the sort of rhetorical trap that a Jewish PR flack for the uglier side of Turkish interests will spring. “You can’t even compare what we went through to what happened with the Armenians!” he yelled — well, not yelled, since he kept his cool, with the kind of condescending demeanor possessed by a guy who knows he successfully baited an interlocutor, but, uh, stated forcefully.
So I wish I had the contact information for that guy. Since I don’t, this will have to do. Hey, fella: how’s it feel to deny a genocide on behalf of the dudes who let the Mavi Marmara sail forth?



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From the article you linked:
In short Turkey has a new government that disagrees with their country’s policy and cooperation of the previous fifty years, and has recently been provoking Israel vigorously.
And your response is to castigate Israel for jeopardizing the relationship.
Whatever one’s feeling on Israel/Hamas it would be more intellectually… accurate… to fault Turkey’s shift to Islamic politics.
Is it denial to say it’s not entirely so clear what happened? Obviously, when it is entirely clear what happened, then to deny that it is clear is a denial of something. But it’s not clear that it’s denial of the genocide. Is it? Granted, I wouldn’t come out and say that someone who says it’s not entirely clear what happened in Europe from 1933-1945 and beyond isn’t denying the Holocaust. But semantically I’m not sure it’s clear that he would be. Further questioning would seem to me to be necessary and appropriate.
Recognition of all historical details should be left to historians, not used for political cudgels. Our leaders are morons.
Turkey’s shift towards a more Islamic government is a result of the CIA backed coup by the Gray Wolves and it was the CIA’s idea to change their constitution and make religious teaching part of the required school curriculum to make them less likely to turn towards the dirty commies at the end of the cold war. This happened in 1980, so that’s 30 years, not 50.
http://www.dehai.org/conflict/articles/henze_sal.html
The criticism that Erdogan is giving Israel is sorely needed, and well deserved. More countries and especially ours should be doing this more.
They are out of control, acting like a petulant and immature nation with more fire power than they should have; from killing 4 UN observers on the lebanon border, wars on lebanon, Syrian strikes, and severe punishment of gaza for voting for Hamas, cast lead, stealing and using allied nations passports for assassinations, extra-judicial political murders on foreign soil, and now shooting up a humanitarian aid flotilla. Israel is a danger to jews right now. Turkey is acting as the best friend Israel has, IMHO. We should confiscate all their weapons and refit them with paint balls.
Dude, the line that so offends you is “reflect on whether something might be wrong with Israeli policy if it’s alienating its decades-long friend in the Muslim world.” You’re the one positing a monocausal shift, not me. But again, I suppose it’s easier to just blame everything on Erdogan.
The organized American Jewish community has been denying the Armenian genocide as a way of insuring Israel’s Turkish interests for decades now. Google “Foxman Armenian genocide,” for example, and you’ll learn all about the Anti-Defamation League’s role in shielding Turkey from the U.S. Congress’ recognition of the Armenian genocide. Yes, the Jewish community’s leading agency for opposing racial hatred has long been engaged in the business of holocaust denial.
Just to make clear, these are not suggestions I would ever think to traffic in or want to try to referee. But once you’re doing it, i would think you’d want to do it conscientiously, neither overstating nor undertreating the offense of what has been suggested.
Turkey has shifted to more Islamic-aware politics. There are many reasons for that shift, much of it backlash against Kemalist ham-fisted secularism.
But the provocations of the last two years are traditional grandstanding – pointing to Israel’s actions, actions completely outside Turkey’s practical domestic interests. Israel has done nothing that destabilizes Turkey and its historic role added to Turkey’s stability.
So Erdogan is whipping up a vocal but small minority. I don’t think that’s “monocausality”. I think it is cynical politics, on par with Iran currently distracting attention away from sanctions by announcing their own flotilla to Gaza.
Let’s be clear – none of this is honest concern for common Gazans.
I don’t like the blockade either, but I do think what will happen after the collapse of the blockade is completely predictable bloodshed on the wholesale level. Propping up Hamas is a hypocritical way to show concern for common Gazans.
I haven’t noticed much outrage on this blog that Hamas was bulldozing the homes of their own citizens three weeks ago – cement being so hard to come by after all. Nor have I seen any outrage as Hamas shuts down NGOs devoted to womens education and jobs for young people. Hamas has been regularly executing people in the street. Again no outrage here.
The victims of Hamas start with their own people.
But as tragic as this all is, it doesn’t change the fact that it is Turkey, after a change from secular to sliding theocracy, who has decided to use Gaza as an excuse to threaten fifty years of stability.
And you’re buying into it.
This particular claim bugs the hell out of me. Yes, you absolutely can, and yes, you absolutely should. When Raphael Lemkin coined the term for the concerted eradication of a people, he absolutely had the Armenian Genocide in mind, specifically, as one such example. The proposition that genocide need approach the proportions of the Holocaust to be recognized and condemned as such is a fundamentally dangerous one, as it permits and even encourages silence and indifference in the face of the most abhorrent crimes that humans can commit against other humans, allowing them to increase in size and scope, and even -as the Armenian Genocide did in the Holocaust, in fact- inspire copycats who see this silence and indifference as tacit license to follow suit.
Basically, “Never Again” needs to mean “Never Again“, period, not “Never Again. To the Jewish people, specifically. In Europe. In the 1940′s.” Until we break the latter understanding, and speak out against all genocide, wherever it occurs, against whomever, we can all be certain that this history will repeat itself, over and over again.
“Let’s be clear – none of this is honest concern for common Gazans.”
Well, thats not such a clearcut case. Many of you US observers, especially those of you who have been following the wars for some time, fail to realize the psychological impact that the Cast Lead operation had on ordinary people in both Turkey and Europe as a whole. The timing (one last kill before Bush goes), the methods (though you yanks have been able to banish them from your collective memory), the bragging afterwards (“Worlds most moral army”) and the whole setting of a deliberate overkill against a nation of kids: It pissed a lot of people off seriously.
So while its true that Erdogan as the politican he is is using populist turkish feelings for his own aims, those populist feelings are based in a sense of outrage at Israels actions the last 2 years. And a lot of that outrage stems from empathy with the Gazan population, trapped like animals and bombed daily by their prisonkeepers. Its too easy to dismiss the consequences of Cast Lead as the machinations of those wily muslims. When you beat up elderly women in public, its a bit rich to complain when people stop wanting to deal with you.
I’m sure a lot of people are pissed off. I’m not exactly complacent at how total Israel has blockaded Gaza either.
It’s also a bit rich to give Turkey a pass for playing local politics on the global stage that gets people killed and excuse it saying Bush&Co did too. And, most salient to my point, propping up Hamas in the process.
Hamas, the kleptocracy that terrorizes its own people, murders its political rivals, and “cooperates” with the most extreme elements in Israeli Palestine.
If this is an example of enlightened non-US thought then I suggest it’s really not that enlightened.
And placing Avigdor Lieberman as Foreign Minister, and Ayalon as DFM isn’t a cynical ploy to whip up a vocal minority?
See, thats where the narrative differs if you watch Al Jazeera Arabic instead of western media.
You see Hamas as a demonic force of terror an par with AQ, while many turks see it as a legitimate fighting organization against the opressors. Heck, they even won an election, and they didnt coup Gaza so much as counter-coup. The fact that there is no popular uprising against them except for a few extremists after so many years of hardship testifies to a deep connection to the people. This is not to say they are nice guys. But if you recognize the concept of state terror, its very hard to make the case that they are any worse than the IDF. In numbers of civilians killed, they dont even come close. Remember the killing of Sheik Yassin?
All turks spent days and days watching the operation Cast Lead from the inside. That was Israels dumbest freaking mistake ever, in terms of larger strategy if their aim was to retain the Turkish alliance. (Read http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/what-a-missed-opportunity-1.295039 for details on the turkish-israeli friendship.)
RE: “the Shtetl Elders” – Ackerman
MY COMMENT: Tsk-tsk! It would make such a wonderful name for a barbershop quartet formed by residents of a South Florida retirement home (and possibly a blockbuster movie of same).
Spencer,
Great article. I love that Lake thinks that no one would notice that AIPAC and ADL have helped deny the genocide that served as the prototype of the jewish holocaust. Precious! You can’t make this S&*t up!
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