You can read Gen. McChrystal’s apology in full here at the Washington Independent. No “clarification” that I expected last night after seeing the AP writeup of McChrystal’s Rolling Stone interview disrespecting the Obama administration. “It was a mistake reflecting poor judgment and should never have happened,” McChrystal emailed reporters instead. “Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honor and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard.” You think?
McChrystal gets called to the White House on Wednesday to direct the monthly Afghanistan/Pakistan briefing — oh, and to explain himself and see if he can keep his job. As I wrote for the Washington Independent, firing him carries its risks. There’s only a year to go before the July 2011 date to begin the transition to Afghan security responsibility and the Kandahar tide is starting to rise. It’ll be hard to fire McChrystal without ripping the entire Afghanistan strategy up, and I’ve gotten no indication from the White House that it’s interested in doing that. On the other hand, if senior administration officials are and I just haven’t picked up on it, McChrystal just gave them their biggest opportunity.
And what an opportunity. You can read the Rolling Stone profile through Politico. The amazing thing about it is there’s no complaints from McChrystal or his staff about the administration on any substantive ground. After all, McChrystal and his allies won the argument within the White House. All the criticisms — of Eikenberry, of Jones, of Holbrooke, of Biden — are actually just immature and arrogant snipes at how annoying Team America (what, apparently, McChrystal’s crew calls itself) finds them. This is not mission-first, to say the least.
In fact, you have to go deep in the piece to find soldiers and officers offering actual critiques — and what they offer is criticism of McChrystal for being insufficiently brutal. Everyone of them quoted here is a mini-Ralph Peters, upset because McChrystal won’t let them “get our fucking gun on,” as one puts it. I have a lot of respect for Michael Hastings, the author of the profile, but there are many greyer shades of on-the-ground military perspective than that, and I’ve seen them up close. But Hastings does a good and insightful job of showing that McChrystal is stepping into a diplomatic vacuum and acting as an advocate for Hamid Karzai despite Karzai’s performance in office.
We’ll have to wait for Wednesday to see if McChrystal keeps his command. My guess is he’ll stay, because now the White House knows that a chastened McChrystal isn’t going to say anything else outside of his lane to any reporter. McChrystal’s apology, emailed to me and other reporters well before the Rolling Stone story dropped, suggests that he wasn’t trying to walk away from his command in a blaze of arrogance. But it’s on him to repair his relationship with his colleagues and his bosses.
Update, 8:51 a.m.: You know, all that said — Yesterday, Gates passed over Gen. James Mattis for Marine Corps commandant. If Obama wants to cashier McChrystal but not overhaul the entire strategy, Mattis is an option. Whether he’d do it is another thing, since he’s the outgoing commander of U.S. Joint Forces Command, so taking over ISAF will technically be a step down. But Mattis will otherwise retire from the Marines, so maybe he wouldn’t see it that way.



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If a colonel was acting this way toward McChrystal, how long would it take before that colonel was a major?
Your comparison with the pope is interesting, Spencer. Are you saying that McChrystal’s leadership verges on infallibility, or is it simply a way of saying that accountability is for underlings but never the guy at the top? Or both?
If McChrystal *doesn’t* get canned for this, what will the reaction be among the military brass toward the civilian leadership? Is the antipathy toward Obama/democrats/civilians such that it will be high fives all around (“Hooray — McC said it like it is, and got away with it!”), will it generate disgust at Obama for putting up with insubordination, or will the reaction be like yours and say “it’s bad, but what else can Obama do?”
Jeeze…no one could have predicted insubordination by McChrystal! He should have been fired after the Pat Tillman episode. Why anyone would have believed a word the guy said after that is beyond me. And that doesn’t even touch on the torture stuff. Bush fired people for telling the truth; I figured the least Obama could do was fire someone for lying. In our current no-fault atmosphere, however, I predict the guy will just soldier on and civilian control of the military will take another hit. He’ll probably get another star. Harry Truman must be rolling over in his grave.
What’s to stop him?
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don’t know guys, I think there’s another groovy Beer Summit tableaux in our future
thanks for the insights, Spencer
Having read the Rolling Stone piece I have to say it stinks. There’s far too many quotes from unnamed aides that it’s impossible to prove were never said.
As I was reading it it seemed that there were a lot of quotes from the anti-COIN crowd, then the last section really sets the seal on that bias implying that COIN is just a repeat of Algeria & Vietnam then going on to to close with remarks on its fundamental flaws.
If COIN is the message and Gen. McChrystal its messenger then Hastings has set out to be his assassin.
Maybe McChrystal just needed chocolate chip cookies and water?
yeah that line does not make sense to me this is starting to feel like a pattern from McChrystal. Also the whole concept makes the guy seem dangerously self promoting. Why did he agree to do this article in the first place?
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“It’ll be hard to fire McChrystal without ripping the entire Afghanistan strategy up.”
Holy shit! Let’s not do THAT!
After the flaming success of the past nine years, why would anyone with two synapses to rub together want to break up a winning team?
I think Obama is so afraid of his own military that McChrystal could walk in the Oval Office, climb up on Obama’s desk, drop trou, and hang a large, steaming, shit right in the preznintial face…and get away with it.
This clown has to go. He is clearly pissed off because he was handed an unwinnable situation in Afghanistan — in which he is destined to look like a loser.
BHO makes a MAJOR mistake keeping this sour-grapes asshole around.
Somewhere in the Pentagon, some field-grade officer is amusing himself playing Captain Queeg with Obama’s ‘nads.
With Biden and Emmanuel both saying a few days ago that the June 2011 get-out-of-Dodge schedule is solid, and with Gates saying that it isn’t, this is going to get very interesting.
Same thing with Iraq, only sooner. Biden said on Larry King a couple of months ago that 90,000 troops would be home from Iraq by the end of the summer.
Am I the only one who thinks that’s happy-talk shitspeak?
New post up top…
Does it matter that McChrystal is losing the war? NATO casualties through the roof & the Taliban getting $4 million a week of our money, while operation after operation is a failure and/or a massacre of civilians?
Miklajewski [sp?] on MSNBC coming down hard on McChrystal as the linchpin of all the remarks in the RS article. Aide remarks about McChrystal and Obama’s first-meet had to come from him because aide would not have been in the room for McChrystal’s lower position as Pentagon COO at that time.
Chrystal Meth [to borrow a morning thread name] needs to do his math. He and his bunch of arrogant whiners who call themselves Team America have nobody on their side on this one.
BREAKING: Wires saying McChrystal going to WH to tender resignation
No one could have expected.
O: Are you a Tru man? Or are you going to wait for the third strike?
Having shown this around I don’t think Hastings is going to win many British friends; UK forces, whom he ignores, are fighting and dying in Afghanistan and have suffered a disproportionate number of casualties. If he’d bothered to read up on his history, instead of following the graveyard of empires myth, he’d have found that the British actually won in Afghanistan.
That makes him 0 for 2 so far, back to the fact checking
No, I believe he will be relieved but not immediately because that is not Obama’s style and it does not suit his purposes. I point to the example of Admiral Wm Fallon who spoke openly to Esquire and was head of CENTCOM for just over a year, leaving in 3/08. When one is appointed to a position such as McChrystals, it comes with the knowledge you can speak your mind to the CINC behind closed doors but you had better walk the line in public or resign. McChrystal will resign or be relieved, in due time.
“…in which he is destined to look like a loser.”
Well, he’s right about that, but he’s also stupid enough to think that escalating/surging, is going to make him a winner.
And: “BHO makes a major mistake keeping this sour-grapes asshole around.”
He sure did, but he didn’t just keep him around, he signed off on putting him in charge, which was asking to get hosed, just like it was when he kept Petraeus and Odierno in charge, so THEY could make presidential policy by holding pressers telling the world that any drawdown was going to be predicated on “success”…all over again, a la bushCo.
If he had come into office and told the american people the truth, that there isn’t going to be a happy ending in either fucking of the cluster, and then dumped the warbots, it’s true, the repubs WOULD have gone crazy.
and it would have been terrible to have lost all of the thoughtful, unselfish, bipartisan support they’ve given him as he so courageously set about to salvage something from their 8 years in power.
Actually, what may happen is that Obama cuts a deal with the warbot brass and they let him shitcan McChrystal without too loudly supporting the repubs when they install McChrystal as patriot/martyr.
Kabuki-dumping McChrystal as earnest money on his growing into the Harry S. Truman “leadership” chair would help short-term, but down the road I think it’ll cost him an announcement that he’s got to “adjust” that June 2011 schedule.
Whatever happens, this is just the first shot at Bull Run. Lots of lunatic-crusade chickens starting to come home in the not-too-distant future. With Obama’s willingness to sustain the lunacy, it’ll be hard to keep them from landing on the White House roof.
You know, I really wish I could get a look at this thing so I could do more than just meta-meta-comment. The Politico link is broken now. Fuck Rolling Stone. I was (quite unlike Spencer) completely suspicious and against McChrystal in the Wars of October such as they were. But for the life of me, this thing looks like it be getting overblown. That was explicit pressure from a general on broad questions of policy in a public address. This looks like some intra-staff locker room talk gone a little far to me. But then I haven’t read the fucking article, so let me know if I’m wrong.
“It’ll be hard to fire McChrystal without ripping the entire Afghanistan strategy up”
It’s this kind of statement – I hesitate to use “thinking” – that makes it hard for me to take this part of FDL seriously.
Strategy? What strategy?
Rip it? Rip it good. The only way to end a clusterfuck is to end it, everything else is armchair masturbation.
And before you get all excited:
April 11, 1951.
Truman Does MacArthur
Of course, the “strategy” involved nuking Chinese airbases. So he had that going for him.
“It’ll be hard to fire McChrystal without ripping the entire Afghanistan strategy up, and I’ve gotten no indication from the White House that it’s interested in doing that.”
Please. It’s not like McChrystal is holding the plans in his head and no one has any ability to execute them without his go-ahead. He’s not MacArthur. The strategy, such that it is, will continue with the Deputy Commander CENTCOM and his staff, just like they do every day. “The graveyard is filled with indispensible people.”
Here’s a link over at the Washington Note to the McChrystal Rolling Stone article and if that’s not up, here’s one at Time.
Two more Friedman Units and we win the war. Or not. The Kandahar Tide is rising and who could have anticipated that good news? Let it rip.
A lot of people at FDL do not take this Afghan “strategy” seriously. This is the same old “Vietnamization”.
The time has already passed for firing. His apology to Biden is choreographed by the WH itself. McClusterfuck–this little bump in the media relations road–is just a tiny fraction of the larger clusterfuck.
To paraphrase the old joke: “What are you looking at McChrystal for? The joke’s in your ME policy.”
Y’all be nice now. Spence is our token centrist. :o)
He puts up a thread parsing out all of the old bushCo/LBJ/Nixon minutae about winning hearts and minds in the villages, and we jump on him and hand him his glutes.
It’s fun. Thanks, Jane. :o)
Eh, I think we all benefit from the back-n-forth.
I doubt if McChrystal could even win a war in Grenada. Why should we pretend he is the only one who can win Afghanistan? Results show that he can’t.
Re: “because now the White House knows that a chastened McChrystal isn’t going to say anything else outside of his lane to any reporter” . . . why do you think that? This isn’t the first time General McChrystal and his crew have pulled a stunt like this.
“Team America” ran to the press before the review was done to press their case for a double down . . . and look where we’re at.
Afghanistan is important, for lots of reasons, sure . . . but the time for dealing with them was squandered and we’re left with what we have – Afghanistan circa 1980. Just because it’s important doesn’t mean the USA, or NATO, has to waste resources on a fool’s errand. A bullet or a missile fired from a drone doesn’t solve every problem.
yup, and it’s a mighty fine job of glute-handling you do.
High fives? The quotes given don’t actually say anything, really — they’re just insolent. What’s offensive to Obama isn’t that McChrystal and his staff hate various people in the Administration. It’s that they have so little respect for their responsibilities that they feed this stuff to Rolling Stone,
Both will probably get taken down in short order(as Drudgico‘s already was), if they haven’t yet. Rolling Stone finally got with the times and the article is now up at their site.
I think we should have a Beer summit II
They can go play golf 3 times a week and force Afghanistan to put 20 Billion into an escrow account and threaten to file a lot of suits against the Afghans.
This strategy has worked so well at stopping oil from spewing into the gulf why not stop the war with it too.
ALso lets introduce a bill to convert the humvees to flex fuel and predator drones to solar power. That’ll stop the killing.
I’m so glad Obama has fulfilled all of his promises.
You thought the front-line soldiers were down on McChrystal because they thought he was “insufficiently brutal?” Really? Your slip is showing, I think.
I’d suggest you re-read the article. They don’t *want* brutality, they want to live long enough to come home. In that particular terrain (been there myself) that’s nothing like a guarantee right now. Big difference.
I only want to hear six words from anybody and everybody in the chain of command…
“Apology accepted – You’re fired you fuck”…
I still don’t get the part where an entire war strategy depends solely on a single insubordinate general.
Didn’t Truman prove that you can still have a war, even after firing MacArthur?
Firing a general doesn’t ‘rip up’ a strategy. You put a different general in there and give him the same orders. Done.
Yeah, I’m increasingly coming around to your way of thinking.
I’m a little stunned by the assertion that POTUS, SECDEF and the Joint Chiefs should all be willing to put aside Article 88 (UCMJ) just because the failed COIN doctrine can only be saved by one insubordinate general. McC has committed an egregious offense for which he can and should be court-martialed.
Seriously, since when is it okay to simply toss off 230+ years of American military law and tradition just to rescue an occupational doctrine that is failing and will only continue to fail anyway?
This is nuts.
The more I hear, the less question i think there is as to what has to happen – I think it’s all but done (despite a Twiiter prediction I made). I just hear that Jack Jacobs guy on the Ed Show and he was unequivocal. Obviously he’s just another dood on the teevee at this point. but the names are really starting to pile up. Ricks, etc., etc. Scarborough was merciless from minute one on his show. I think too many establishment-type people have basically called the president out and said this is a clear test of his authority at this point. I’m not sure an adviser could responsibly advise him to let the guy keep his job.
Actually, I think Abraham Lincoln proved that with McClellan.
I thought it was a serious mistake to appoint McCrystal in the first place, given his history with the Tillman incident and his apparent complicity with torturing and otherwise mistreating prisoners. Not to mention I thought the brilliant strategy he outlined was bullshit of the first order.
It might be of some use if West Point taught, say, some military history from time to time. What? People say they already do? Then why the hell does our military keep making the same damned mistakes time after time after time?