A subset factor behind this corruption that I think we’ve all tended to overlook is that from roughly 2002 to 2008, when there was more of a U.S. interest in making pronouncements about what Afghanistan ought to be in a nation-building sense than resources to get it there, the U.S. had a really expedient option: the CIA. Get the agency to throw some cash around, at some warlords or Karzai relatives or whomever, and that’s your nation-building strategy. It doesn’t make much sense to catch the vapors over how Ahmed Wali Karzai or Mohammed Zia Salehi gets CIA money. For a long time, the CIA led a de facto governance strategy, all through a counterterrorist prism. What makes more sense when you’ve got limited resources and a sprawling mandate than to buy allies where you can?
All that should underscore how you can’t really address corruption in Afghanistan without first recognizing that we’re part of it. Any foreign force in any foreign country in a position of command is a distorting influence. That doesn’t mean we’re doomed. Nor does it follow that a lack of corruption will follow an American departure. It just means we should recognize our limitations and act accordingly. It may be, pace Cohen, that we shouldn’t really make much of an effort against corruption, lest we give in to a resource-draining mission creep.
And at risk of total contradiction: Cordesman’s paper mentions (but doesn’t really grapple with) the Taliban’s superior ability to adjudicate disputes between people. If one way to mitigate the damage of corruption without mission creep is to focus U.S. development efforts on immediate-impact projects like agriculture (vice road construction or dam-building or such), then wouldn’t it make sense to throw a bunch of legal advisers into Afghan provinces to get courts set up and operating? Not a lot of investment. Targeting a Taliban strength. Maybe it’s a dumb idea, but why not consider it?



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Can’t honestly see any reason at all why it would be a dumb idea. Communities need a certain minimal level of governance in order to remain communities. There needs to be a basis for economic activity, and some kind of law enforcement/legal adjudication function is not only the basis for security at the neighborhood level, it is a necessary enabler for commerce. When people trade goods or services for other goods, services or money, there will always be cases where people feel they got cheated. In the absence of a legal structure, these disputes are decided with guns, which further damages local security and prevents the community from governing itself.
When you think about what a community, anywhere in the world, needs to be viable, it would be commercial activity including food production and distribution, collective security, some kind of functioning health care/sanitation system and basic education. Communities will tend to create these conditions on their own, unless there are external forces to prevent the delivery of these kinds of basic, essential services.
I think the problem is, while you and I and a few thousand bucks could get it set up and running in a rural Afghan village of a few hundred souls, I’m not sure anyone knows how to scale that kind of effort up without turning it into pretty much what we have now…
mikey
But what about the corruption that would require “mission creep” to end?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98261034
Um no. The worst kind of missions creep would be invading a country for no reason whatsoever or invading a country when a police action would do.
I just wish I could go back to my radical bad-haircut punk ass in high school and say, “you know how you’re saying right now that invading Afghanistan would do exactly jack shit, that Osama bin Laden and his leadership would flee if they hadn’t already, that when we displaced the Taliban we’d be left with the deadly and impossible task of propping up a government full of warlords, our guys, who we already know to be down with running their enemies under tank treads and embezzling as much money as they can grab? Yeah, you’re right, but prepare for a tough decade.”
I am going to gloat about that until the goddamn end of time. The far left was right about everything! Everything! Just like the Gulf of Tonkin. It took nearly ten years for the mainstream press to exercise reasonable skepticism of the government. Ten lost years. Personally, I wasn’t that stupid.
The only thing I didn’t predict is that the Taliban wouldn’t even be displaced in large areas of the country, and that the ongoing domestic resistance would come from the exact same people we were about to ‘defeat’.
1. presumably it goes without saying, but i wish it would be said anyway: *IF* we got our lame asses OUT of pipelinestan, *THEN* afghanis could do their afghani thing… (are they a sovereign nation or not? if so, we should be gone…)
BUT, will we ever leave ? our temporary-in-perpetuity bases HAVE TO stay there to protect ‘our interests’ (read: oil/gas/unobtainium, maybe some opium on the side)…
…and we HAVE TO protect ‘our oil’ so that our military can have enough fuel to go around the world protecting ‘our oil’, so our military can man bases that need fuel to protect ‘our oil’, so our military has enough fuel to protect ‘our oil’, so that our brave mercs can murder barbarians for ‘our oil’, so our mercs can ride around in humvees protecting ‘our oil’, so our military has plenty of everything… ad infinitum, (but we ain’t a militaristic society at all)…
2. corruption ? ? ? really, i wouldn’t have guessed… that is swallowing the war camel, and straining at the corruption gnat… not to mention, it can’t be ‘corruption’ (ie ‘bad’) if it is widespread, ignored, and/or semi-legal-like…
(*that’s* how we do it in amerika: make the illegal legal, and ignore the immoral, for -*ahem*- the right people…)
3. otherwise, wars are always -you know- crisp and clean and no caffeine… i suggest if ‘we’ (sic) are deciding we want to rebuild pipelinestan, then a hunter-killer force is not the right instrument of statekraft (sick)…
what DID ever happen to the peace corps… i remember when it was a semi-big deal… has it been infiltrated and turned by our spooks ? ? ?
why not, they’ve turned everything else to their will…
art guerrilla
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‘You can change a regime but you can’t change a society’ would seem to be the cliche you are missing.
Mr. Cordesman was intimately involved in Vietnam while I was there in helping the provincial officials kill their enemies through the Phoenix Program so the same provincial officials could enrich themselves through the opium trade. I assume the only reason Cordesman is any sort of an expert is because he has experience with two things Afghanistan has in common with Vietnam: an indigenous guerilla force that enforces its own laws and 2., a thriving opium business which is enriching the locals and at the same time the CIA and other foreign entities.
I’m with mattcarmody in terms of looking back at Vietnam. Extreme corruption in the client government was a huge problem in Vietnam and looks to be a repeat in Afghanistan.
On a related note, William Black was saying the other day that: “The U.S. taxpayers are about to bail out the depositors of a fraudulent Afghan bank”
Either way, we have no legitimate business being in Afghanistan. The solution to the Afghan conflict is to bring the troops home now.
I guess I always saw corruption in Afghanistan as a product of 50+% unemployment and corruption in America and Europe as a problem. When between 11 and 17 cents on a dollar of every dollar of aid going into the “Marshall Plan” we promised that country actually gets spent in and on Afghanistan itself, the corruption problem that we need to deal with isn’t corrupt Afghans. Just concentrate on getting the underpinnings together so that the people who can run the place have an incentive to move back or move up, so that the DDR can get started, and then we can leave. We only need the place to function and to fulfill our “Marshall Plan” committments. If that happens it won’t be a haven for anything and we won’t have any reason for being there. The other mission is a useless joke, aimed at keeping that AUMF alive so we don’t have to admit we set up all those illegal prisons. We’re going to have to admit it someday, today seems like a nice enough day for it.