The trouble is that none of these statements actually explain, hint at or otherwise indicate how to get 67 votes in the Senate for the treaty. Max Bergmann does a whip count and finds that it’s plausible to pass New START in the next three weeks, before Congress adjourns for the election and the Democrats lose shitloads of House and Senate seats. After that, when the Senate fills up with ever-more hostile Republicans who will want to ride their victories into a wave of obstruction, much as anti-Bush Democrats did after 2006, the Senate math becomes somewhere between horrible and terminal for the treaty.
It’s basically in Harry Reid’s hands. Or, rather, the administration and the Democratic Senate leadership could still mishandle moving the treaty through the Senate in the next three weeks, but if Reid doesn’t schedule the vote, it’s all over. Kerry has already mused about voting on the treaty in the lame-duck session. But why would any Republican go along with that proposal? If the administration wants to give up even more money for modernizing the nuclear stockpile — the key deliverable GOP objection to the treaty — it can promise that as easily now as it can after November, when it will be in a weaker position.
Who knows, maybe the GOP thinks it can win the Senate outright — not implausible — and so then it can just write and pass legislation upping the modernization budget without passing New START. All these scenarios grow more plausible for the GOP after the congressional session.
What’s Reid going to do, now that the committee’s reported the treaty out? Josh Rogin had a quote the other day from an anonymous GOP aide that rang true: “Are they drunk? Why would Harry Reid spend any floor time on this, it’s just not going to help any Democrat get elected.” Unless the Obama administration suddenly learned how to control the Senate — or even the Senate Democratic caucus — than the guy’s got a point.
Here’s the basic political problem. There is no constituency in the United States electorate for arms control in any significant number. Suspicion that the U.S. is getting rolled by any foreign accord is so high that even if a treaty is manifestly in the U.S. interest, its advocates still have to defend it against easy demagoguery. Throw in “Nuclear Treaty With Russia” and popular fears compound. And there’s no counter-coalition to mobilize support in favor of the thing. So you have to depend on elite maneuvering, which is always politically brittle. Senators facing tough elections in their home states are not going to want to spend time defending their votes on “controversial” treaties, especially if all they’ve got to say about them is, “You’re wrong, Guy At The Senior Center, because a Republican Secretary of State you’ve barely heard of told me the treaty is fine.” Like, oh, Harry Reid, for instance.
Put it a different way. At a lunch event the other day, an astute reporter asked Ellen Tauscher, the undersecretary of state for arms control, why any senator had to fear voting against New START. Her answer, as best I understood it, was that Senators are not going to want to tell their constituents that the U.S. didn’t have visibility into the Russian nuclear arsenal, which is a consequence of not passing the treaty. And that’s probably the best argument-from-fear/Senatorial self-interest in favor of New START. But does that sound to you like an argument that mobilizes votes?



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I don’t see how it has any chance. The Republicans aren’t going to give Obama a foreign policy win at this point, and half the Democratic caucus is terrified of being seen as too close to “liberal” Obama to even vote against the extension of the Bush tax cuts for the super wealthy, which polls popularly nationally.
Nope. Just go ahead and throw START onto that stack of everything that won’t get done over the next two years at least, as we see nothing but divided government, partisan bickering, polarizing investigations and gridlock. Damn good thing nothing important’s going on in the world these days…
mikey
There’s another stack to throw it into: the one where O throws bones to libruls before the election.
I can’t count above three GOPs who’d vote for this: Snowe, Collins, Lugar.
Who else? Need four more, presuming the Democrats hold fast (Hi Ben!)
Mebbe PBO could name the next Nukular Warhead “Big John” … that’ll get a Texan vote.
Got this in an email from some org called makeprogress tonight. Don’t know who they are or why I’m on their list, but here it is fwiw.
drive by
http://www.redding.com/news/2010/sep/15/pick-your-poiso... /
On Sept. 7, the California Beer & Beverage Distributors gave $10,000 to a committee opposing Proposition 19, the measure that would change state law to legalize pot and allow it to be taxed and regulated.
The California Police Chiefs Association has given the most to the Proposition 19 opposition with a contribution of $30,000, according to Cal-Access, a website operated by the secretary of state’s office.
“Unless the beer distributors in California have suddenly developed a philosophical opposition to the use of intoxicating substances, the motivation behind this contribution is clear,” Steve Fox, director of government relations for the Marijuana Policy Project, said in statement. “Plain and simple, the alcohol industry is trying to kill the competition. Their mission is to drive people to drink.”
It’s toast.
LOL … Brilliant !
I can tell you that I saw the table the state Republican Party has at our state fair, and they are selling “end of times” t-shirts there. “See anything you like?” they asked as I perused their goods.
I think START and “End of Times” don’t go well together.
He hasn’t ever risked a thing in the time he’s been Majority Leader. I can’t see him starting now.
Sad that this won’t be ratified. Any reduction that the two countries negotiated is going to be a sane one.
To win the Senate outright, the GOP would have to gain 10 seats. Please name the 10 Democrats who are in that much trouble. The Republican math problem is that this is the last class of Senators from when they held the Senate; there are more Republicans up for re-election than Democrats.
Right now, the Republican upside is 51; the Demoratic upside is 68.
Getting it ratified will be an interesting issue in the run-up to the election. Because the US has more to gain from ratifying it than from not ratifying it.
The going assumption here is that the leadership will screw up the strategy and messaging again. We’ll revisit this after the vote on the Defense Appropriations bill that contains the repeal of DADT and the DREAM Act. The Republican weakness at the moment is looking too obstructionist when the public spotlight is on them for the midterms. They will concede on some issues (after procedurally trying to block them). And Richard Lugar is likely to be the filibuster breaker.
Would tea partiers rather have a nuclear holocaust than let a dem pass anything? Apparently yes. …****ing dumb as dirt inbreds.