The eastern provinces of Afghanistan abutting the Pakistani tribal areas provide cross-border access to the Taliban-led insurgent coalition. Whatever else you think about the Afghanistan war, the Obama administration decided in 2009 to deemphasize security operations in the east at the expense of a wide-ranging effort to reverse Taliban momentum in the south. The best that can be said of that effort so far is that Taliban momentum, by the administration’s account, is stalled. Meanwhile, in the east, this is what’s happening, the Times reports:
The September parliamentary elections further illustrated the Taliban’s grip on eastern Ghazni, about 90 miles south of Kabul. In Andar, a district of about 100,000 people, only three people voted.
And:
One place the government’s minimal footprint can be seen is in the schools. The government pays teachers’ salaries and buys books. But even here, the Taliban assert their influence. At a school of about 1,300 boys and 30 teachers in the nearby village of Chawni, the Taliban recently posted a letter on the wall detailing the curriculum that was to be taught.
“So here they get money from the government, books from the government, and they think it’s perfectly legitimate to teach what that Taliban tells them,” said Captain Schwengler, who commands the Third Battalion’s Company B.
Is that meant as criticism of a population that has to live under the Taliban’s grip even while an American presence patrols in the area? Seems like a perfectly rational calculation to me.
So how goes Maj. Gen. Campbell’s plan to secure eastern Afghanistan at its halfway point? There’s hardly enough evidence from a piece about part of Ghazni to judge, but the early signs are ominous ones.



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Why does all of this seem to be so much of “whack-a-mole”?
Take a little time and watch.War Made Easy.At HULU web site movie.
After 10 years the best we can say is stalled after how many lives and billions of dollars the best military in the world can stall the Taliban?
Maybe we should redefine the word’s best military. Sure we can destroy the world with nukes but if we can’t even defeat the Taliban the word’s best military seems a stretch.
Any bets Sarah will run as the candidate who will get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan the Nixon peace with honor sound bite is going to get replayed and no I don’t think Obama will get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
The guy is to Weak to admit making a mistake.
The Pashtun tribe’s traditional homeland lies on either side of the arbitrary border which was drawn on maps in London by the British Empire and never even surveyed, let alone secured, was never accepted or respected by the Pashtun. So the border which is receiving so much press doesn’t even exist in the minds of the local people.
I have been just across the mountains from there not long ago. It may well be unimaginable for an American to visualize how wild and free the place is. The mountains are unbelievably rugged. The canyons are the world’s deepest. The peaks are well above the limits of the most powerful helicopters. I would guess the passes are high enough to make helicopters sitting ducks. So their flight patterns are limited to up a canyon and back down again, making them sitting ducks. There are no highways, only broken, one lane bituminous oiled gravel paved ledges blasted out of the mountainsides that are frequently blocked with huge landslides and avalanches.
There is no such thing as a border that is well defined or defensible.
It will not be possible to conquer the Pashtun. They know this.
Let’s get real and admit that no one in the U.S. “intelligence” understood what they were getting into. I have been interested in Afghanistan for 50 years, since I first found a book on it on my dad’s bookshelf that had been a college text of his in the 1930s. Afghanistan is a difficult, forbidding landscape that has never been occupied or successfully conquered in recorded history.
When I heard that George W. was sending in the troops my first reaction was “They have really lost their minds now.” Events will continue to prove me right as long as our military is there.
If anyone still believes in sin, the whole murderous enterprise is sinful. Otherwise, just tragically stupid.
Given what you say why aren’t they cutting off our supplies sent in from Pakistan more? Ambushing our supplies would seem an easy way to victory. How long could our army last without new supplies food and bullets at the current burn rate?
By the way, the “one lane bituminous oiled gravel paved ledges” are the very rare “good” road. Normal passenger vehicles are not useful there.
Sin, Stupid is there a difference?
That’s a good question. Maybe the answer lies in the document dump #2 from Wikileaks. Apparently the U.S. government has good enough control of the mass media that we won’t be seeing cables that report the problems you identify any time soon. If you have the time, try going to one of the Wikileaks sites or mirrors and start reading through the quarter million or so cables and see if you find evidence of limits on NATO troop travel because of extended, indefensible supply lines.
Afghanistan can crudely divided into two geographical areas, the desert south surrounding the Helmond river, and the mountainous north. The Helmond River Plain has flat, irrigated farmland and extremely hot deserts. More harsh, but not too dissimilar to the Mojave desert west of Las Vegas.
The rest of the country, more than half, is the northern, mountainous region. If we haven’t completely controlled the lower elevation, relatively easy terrain along the Helmond river where Kandahar is, in ten years, there is no chance whatsoever of U.S. forces controlling the mountainous areas.
It would be nearly impossible to supply an invading army in the mountains of northern Afghanistan regardless of how much imaginary money the Fed and Wall Street are willing to blow trying.
By the way, the imaginary border between Pakistan and Afghanistan lies in the mountainous part of the country, and it also happens to be where the fiercest of the tribesmen live. The old college text I read that was published in the 30s was written by a Standard Oil geologist who was trekking through the country on foot, looking for promising formations. When he was in the eastern part of the country, in the provinces bordering India (today’s Pakistan) he pretended to be a mute and was completely bundled up in homespun so no one would recognize that he was an American because it was standard procedure for all infidels to be killed on sight at that time. One of his assistants, a man he hired in more friendly regions who led his donkey, did all the talking when they were in those Pashtun areas. His story of crossing an 18,000+ foot pass is truly one of the epic stories of adventure travel. It wasn’t even winter and they all nearly froze to death.
You identified the probem:)
I’m not military I would not know what to look for unless it were spelled out for me I assume they would try and be discrete and obtuse about bad news.
I lack the expertise to see through the bull on that subject.
It sounds like we are very vulnerable then to having our supplies cut do our troops have enough fuel in reserve to drive out of Afghanistan if their supplies line are cut?
If not this could be horrible.
I always thought McCain could’ve won if he pulled the Nixon thing and promised to quickly pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.wikileaks.ch/cablegate.html
As of 12/26 at 7PM EST, WikiLeaks has released fewer than 1,900 cables since 11/27. Further, they are sorted by origin, so it’s possible to find quickly those which originate Embassy Kabul, Embassy Islamabad, Secretary of State, etc. Another sorting is available by classification. Another sorting is available by year of creation.
There could be a situation where it is difficult to get everyone out. The Khyber Pass is where 80% or more of U.S. supplies are brought in from the Indian ocean via Karachi. That route was closed for ten days or so earlier this year after a helicopter crossed into Pakistan near Peshawar and killed some men from the Pakistani army. Peshawar is the last big Paki city on the way to Kabul via Khyber Pass and Jalalbad.
AS long as the Fed cooperates and the U.S. military can continue to bring in pallet loads of hundred dollar bills there are probably enough corrupt Afghans to facilitate escape for the American troops.
Oh, hell the NWO would probably take him out like they did Kennedy when he quietly wanted to stop escalating in ‘Nam.
The presidents sell their souls for that office and really just do what they’re told…esp after Kennedy. There’s a lot pf power but it’s all directed…now pretty much by the banksters
I Have often wondered if that aortic tear Holbrook got could have been caused by a knife……..He was pretty clear about the disaster this adventure is causing the military and the country